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You need to add the VAT in the buyer's region, not the seller's. This is of course a nightmare to manage. See:…",[],"unknown",{"praise":76,"objections":84,"requests":126,"questions":142,"alternatives":159},[77],{"value":78,"source":67,"evidence":79},"Could work well for small vendors if VAT is handled",[80],{"id":81,"by":82,"text":83},"10153714","calgoo","IF someone provides the service with the VAT support i think it could actually work quite well for a lot of small vendors.",[85,96,107,122],{"value":86,"source":67,"evidence":87},"Does not handle EU VAT MOSS",[88,92],{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"10152804","BrentOzar","> How does it handle VAT MOSS on digital goods in the EU? They don't. See: https:\u002F\u002Ffilesprout.com\u002Fsupport\u002Fwhat-do-i-need.html \"If after talking with a professional you are…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"10152687","davb","How does it handle VAT MOSS on digital goods in the EU? The new rules state that sellers must charge VAT at the rate of the buyer's country and must record evidence of the…",{"value":97,"source":67,"evidence":98},"5% fee seems steep on top of payment processor fees",[99,103],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"10154273","et2o","5% seems a little steep on top of what Paypal or Stripe take.",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"10152541","ousta","taking 5% for doing what exactly? I assume this does not include the paypal fee right? so those guys are basically charging at least 1,5% more than paypal for handling what a…",{"value":108,"source":67,"evidence":109},"Hidden links are not secure; piracy not addressed",[110,114,118],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"10155403","sitkack","Hidden != Secure Punting on this is kinda ridiculous.",{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"10153021","Vendan","More importantly, how do they solve \"upload the download up to my dropbox and share that\"",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"10153076","izzydata","How do I link to the file without it being public in the first place? I'd want it to not be publicly accessible, but only accessible through the purchase. 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