[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":436},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-10196053":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":42,"post_text":44,"what":45,"said":98,"maker_in_thread":258,"shape":265,"grid":269,"attempts":397,"same_week":398,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":428,"reader_version":429,"card":430},"10196053","Barter Hack","trade your technical skills for other people's","title","Show HN: Barter Hack – trade your technical skills for other people's","http:\u002F\u002Fwww.barterhack.com\u002F","barterhack.com","Uptrenda",1441856439,2015,73,55,362,2565,15,"notable","web_saas","skill bartering marketplace","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"barter","skill exchange","time bank","service swap","curious",-0.155,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},2,12,1,6,21,{"idea":37,"execution":39,"design":41},{"positive":31,"critical":38},3,{"positive":40,"critical":31},0,{"positive":40,"critical":33},[38,40,40,33,40,40,40,43,40,40,38,40,40,40,40,40,40,40,33,38,40,38,40,40,38,40,38,38,40,38,40,40,38,38,38,38,33,40,38,33],5,null,{"problem":46,"audience":56,"pricing":44,"motivation":68,"time_to_build":44,"stack":73,"openness":96,"stage":97,"team_size":96},{"value":47,"source":48,"evidence":49},"Lets programmers trade technical skills for non-technical services without money.","maker",[50,53],{"id":51,"by":11,"text":52},"10196059","It's a strange idea that we're come to accept money as being a necessary prerequisite for the exchange of utility but that's not always the case. Let me know what you think.",{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},"10202281","Lets say that you're working on a part of a project that sucks and you're not very good at it. What I find interesting is the possibility of swapping work. For instance: two…",{"value":57,"source":58,"evidence":59},"Programmers and people with non-technical skills who want to swap services.","inferred",[60,64],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"10197498","csmattryder","This is perfect for the one-man-band programmers amongst us, myself included! While programmers can build great tech, we rarely have the marketing\u002FPR knowhow to actually get it…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"10197540","allencoin","So it looks like this is specifically for people with technical skills to offer their services in exchange for services from people with non-technical skills. Is that on purpose,…",{"value":69,"source":58,"evidence":70},"Programmers lack marketing and PR skills; wanted a way to trade work without money.",[71,72],{"id":51,"by":11,"text":52},{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},[74,80,84,88,92],{"value":75,"source":48,"evidence":76},"JavaScript (jQuery)",[77],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},"10200287","UI is a simple AJAX web app written in JQuery. Look and feel is bootstrap. Database is MySQL. Backend is PHP. Communication between UI and backend is JSON. It's a really simple…",{"value":81,"source":48,"evidence":82},"Bootstrap",[83],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},{"value":85,"source":48,"evidence":86},"MySQL",[87],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},{"value":89,"source":48,"evidence":90},"PHP",[91],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},{"value":93,"source":48,"evidence":94},"JSON",[95],{"id":78,"by":11,"text":79},"unknown","prototype",{"praise":99,"objections":113,"requests":169,"questions":213,"alternatives":238},[100,109],{"value":101,"source":102,"evidence":103},"Good idea for one-person programmers needing marketing help.","commenter",[104,105],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"10197885","manuu","This is a good idea, now you have to post in the HN of designers and marketers",{"value":110,"source":48,"evidence":111},"Swapping tasks between people with opposite weaknesses is interesting.",[112],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},[114,129,137,148,158],{"value":115,"source":102,"evidence":116},"Spam and joke listings make the site look like a troll site.",[117,121,125],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"10199151","bliti","This needs submission filtering. Otherwise I can't take it seriously. Right now it looks like a troll site.",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"10197698","itengelhardt","Why am I not in the least bit surprised that the #1 offer currently is \"programming in exchange for sex\"?",{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"10198327","golergka","Can offer: sex Wants in return: sex Title: sex4sex Okay.",{"value":130,"source":102,"evidence":131},"Time and skill disparity makes exchanges uneven.",[132,136],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"10198603","gooseus","I think perhaps this would be better as a consulting\u002Ftraining exchange... seems to be a lot of criticism related to the disparity of required time\u002Fskill in coding a website and…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},{"value":138,"source":102,"evidence":139},"Barter reinvents money; quantifying value is hard.",[140,144],{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"10197109","jarradhope","Not all skills are equal - they have no innovation in terms of quantifying time\u002Fskills? I feel like they'll end up re-inventing money and markets in order to do so. For this…",{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"10198516","wyager","No one thinks it's necessary; it's just fungible and storable, and therefore more practical than barter. Value-matching with barter is really hard. Maybe I'm a neurosurgeon and I…",{"value":149,"source":102,"evidence":150},"Site breaks without JavaScript and listings are hard for Google to index.",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"10197262","eevilspock","Site breaks with Javascript off. I like the popups instead of page loads, but since I'm building out an new website myself, I'd like to know whether you lose too many users…",{"id":156,"by":11,"text":157},"10209552","I might be wrong about this but I'd say that the majority of websites out there would break without Javascript. That's not to say that you can't \"gracefully degrade\"…",{"value":159,"source":102,"evidence":160},"Needs NSFW tagging and categories.",[161,165],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"10199206","sudo_bang_bang","This needs a potentially NSFW tag. Looked at this while working and quickly had to close it due to some questionable content.",{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"10198983","t2015_08_25","I like it! Probably needs some categorization, b\u002Fc it's hard to control whether people will barter sewing for cheeseburgers or C for javascript, etc. But a great start, keep going.",[170,181,188,198,205],{"value":171,"source":102,"evidence":172},"Add categories and filtering.",[173,174,177],{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},{"id":175,"by":11,"text":176},"10200322","I agree, and things could end up quite messy without categories. Will try think of something simple to start with.",{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"10197750","werber","This would be great if it was trimmed down to a few concrete categories relevant to devs and marketers, and done in a timebank fashion. It be awesome to have a place to go to…",{"value":182,"source":102,"evidence":183},"Add spam filtering and captcha.",[184,185],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},{"id":186,"by":11,"text":187},"10201103","Recaptcha added. I have foiled your evil plans (for now at least.)",{"value":189,"source":102,"evidence":190},"Add profiles and portfolio links for verification.",[191,195],{"id":192,"by":193,"text":194},"10197906","meesles","Pretty good idea, but I would let people add more details, customize posts, add links to portfolios or link to social media so we know they aren't some random creep.",{"id":196,"by":11,"text":197},"10200333","True - things like Github profiles, LinkedIn, maybe some simple ways to verify ownership (if not already easy to do via some API.) Nice idea.",{"value":199,"source":102,"evidence":200},"Allow searching by wanted skills, not only offers.",[201],{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"10200281","itsybitsycoder","It would also be nice to be able to search both ways. Right now searching only shows what the other person is offering, but it might be nice to search by what they want. That way…",{"value":206,"source":102,"evidence":207},"Support three-way bartering or a timebank model.",[208,212],{"id":209,"by":210,"text":211},"10201251","username3","Does this have threeway bartering or more? If not, we could have a bartering tickets aka money.",{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},[214,221,228],{"value":215,"source":102,"evidence":216},"Will the source code be open sourced?",[217],{"id":218,"by":219,"text":220},"10198324","johnchristopher","I'd be very interested about the who, what and how of that. Is that open-sourced ? What tech ? There are few usable app\u002Fwebsite for exchanging services (aka LETS). There is…",{"value":222,"source":102,"evidence":223},"Is there a general barter site for technical skills?",[224],{"id":225,"by":226,"text":227},"10196753","skillachie","Nice idea. I have tried to barter my development services for art pieces and so on before. Do they have a general barter site at all ?",{"value":229,"source":102,"evidence":230},"Are tax implications of bartering a concern?",[231,234],{"id":232,"by":107,"text":233},"10199488","Maybe you can advice about neurosurgery, and in return get what you want. I like about these is that it avoid taxes, and that's always a plus.",{"id":235,"by":236,"text":237},"10199840","fiveoak","In the US this is incorrect, it's classified as barter income: http:\u002F\u002Fwww.irs.gov\u002Ftaxtopics\u002Ftc420.html \"An example of bartering is a plumber exchanging plumbing services for the…",[239,246,250,254],{"value":240,"source":102,"evidence":241},"OurGoods",[242],{"id":243,"by":244,"text":245},"10197762","krebby","There's also OurGoods, a more generalized (and less programmer-specific) swap network. 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