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Just wanted to get some feedback on this in its current state. Agree that it should detect user's browser\u002Fdevice and suggest an appropriate blocker. I wish uBlock…",[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":68,"objections":69,"requests":116,"questions":135,"alternatives":144},[],[70,86,105],{"value":71,"source":72,"evidence":73},"Ad blocking harms the revenue that funds free websites","commenter",[74,78,82],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"11223071","agopaul","I don't get it. A big part of the web is paid by ads. Lots of websites rely on (non-invasive) ads to sustain themselves and provide content to anyone for free. It's safe to say…",{"id":79,"by":80,"text":81},"11223112","morsch","Ads pay for some web sites. People pay for ads because they want the attention of the sites' readers to get them to buy their products. People buy their products, which pays for…",{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"11227217","bobby_9x","I've never seen a group so ready and willing to destroy their chances at future success. Ads are pretty much the only way to make a living when you are bootstrapping. These…",{"value":87,"source":72,"evidence":88},"Blocker detection misses host-file and other blocking methods",[89,93,97,101],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"11223085","accommodavid","I'm using Dan Pollock's hosts file method[1] which is detected by Wired and Forbes, but not this site. [1]: http:\u002F\u002Fsomeonewhocares.org\u002Fhosts\u002F",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"11223346","drdaeman","Checked Firefox and Chrome, with uMatrix in a typical configuration that blocks all but first-party requests and external images and CSS by default and a default set of common AD…",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"11222972","rahimnathwani","I visited the site from an iOS device with Purify installed and enabled for 'Ads and Tracking'. The site told me It didn't detect an ad blocker.",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"11223202","psynapse","Doesn't appear to detect the use of Privacy Badger on Firefox.",{"value":106,"source":72,"evidence":107},"Ad blocking is a misnomer; the real concern is tracking and malware",[108,112],{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"11228667","SCAQTony","Ad blocking is a rhetorical misnomer. It's not ad blocking, it's malware blocking. I have no problem with ads and would allow to be subjected to them if cookies, trackers,…",{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"11223079","Touche","It's mostly about tracking for me.",[117,123,127],{"value":118,"source":72,"evidence":119},"Detect more blocking methods such as host files and other blockers",[120,121,122],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"value":124,"source":72,"evidence":125},"Link to the right extension for the user's browser instead of uBlock Origin on GitHub",[126],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"value":128,"source":72,"evidence":129},"Support Ghostery and Privacy Badger detection",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"11222988","ricardolopes","I'm simply using Ghostery to block any ad trackers and other scripts. Which this site tells me it's apparently not enough.",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},[136],{"value":137,"source":72,"evidence":138},"Why should people block ads when ads fund the web?",[139,143],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"11223054","Kiro","The \"Why?\" text didn't convince me at all, so... why? I'm serious. I don't mind ads and I don't mind being tracked. On the contrary I've found interesting products on banners,…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},[145,153,162,169],{"value":146,"source":72,"evidence":147},"uBlock Origin",[148,149],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},"11223124","anexprogrammer","Hmm. I'm conflicted. I am very much against tracking, and ads that track retarget and abuse me, so am very restrictive in terms of what I let near my browser. I'd also be very…",{"value":154,"source":72,"evidence":155},"Adblock Plus",[156,159],{"id":157,"by":11,"text":158},"11223055","Hmmm, are you by any chance using a filter list other than Easy List in adblockplus?",{"id":160,"by":11,"text":161},"11227648","To be honest, I think when it comes to usability, most users of ad blockers aren't going to change settings. And having just checked it against Adblock Plus, I'm not so convinced…",{"value":163,"source":72,"evidence":164},"Privacy Badger",[165],{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"11223277","andrewaylett","One thing about this, is that I don't particularly want an ad-blocker per se: I want a malicious-or-annoying-stuff blocker. So I primarily use Privacy Badger, which dynamically…",{"value":170,"source":72,"evidence":171},"Ghostery",[172],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},{"comments":174,"answered":32,"key":175},14,[176,179,180],{"id":177,"text":178},"11223127","Agree. We'll remove jQuery dependence and move remote JS\u002FCSS files to the same server.",{"id":62,"text":63},{"id":181,"text":182},"11223090","Are you serious? Basic browser\u002Fdevice detection to suggest a suitable ad blocker is not really the same as the tracking carried out by big ad networks. 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