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You are absolutely right that those are important metrics to feed into the system. Note I'm not really trying to 'convince' anyone of anything. I shared…",[],"open_source","prototype","unknown",{"praise":59,"objections":60,"requests":93,"questions":111,"alternatives":123},[],[61,71,82],{"value":62,"source":48,"evidence":63},"Fees erode profits; a test run with 1 BTC paid about 2.5 BTC in fees and ended lower",[64,68],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"11367400","dikaiosune","\"My test portfolio was initialized with a 1 BTC deposit, and after 2 months and 23,413 trades, exited with 0.955 BTC. The system paid 2.486 BTC in fees to poloniex.\" I wonder…",{"id":69,"by":52,"text":70},"11367562","Read the readme. Trader is not profitable (yet). Unless if you don't include fees in profitability calculation, which is clearly not a calculation based in a real use case.",{"value":72,"source":48,"evidence":73},"Simple buy\u002Fhold\u002Fsell classification on past price movement is not a convincing strategy",[74,78],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"11367642","n_mca","Hm, not really convinced by the \"just classify buy\u002Fhold\u002Fsell based on an n-lookback\" strategy -> Maybe read Ernie Chan's book on algo-trading, or use a more traditional method…",{"id":79,"by":80,"text":81},"11368702","Animats","It's a velocity-based system, one that looks at recent change history and tries to project into the near future. Those only work in markets where nobody else is doing that. You…",{"value":83,"source":48,"evidence":84},"Open-sourcing a profitable trader makes little sense since shared strategies get exploited",[85,89],{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"11367511","npx","I can't imagine why anyone would actually want to release a profitable trader. Isn't this kind of a tautologically dumb thing to do?",{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"11370510","ben_che","I'm sorry but that's a terrible analogy. The whole point of open-source software is aligning the interests of individual developers and groups to create something that can be…",[94,104],{"value":95,"source":48,"evidence":96},"Add a simulation (paper trading) mode",[97,101],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"11367640","grigio","I appreciate this.. but why do you do it with real money? Shouldn't be better to allow a \"simulation mode\" ?",{"id":102,"by":52,"text":103},"11367665","But if you wanted to add a simulation mode, I'd certainly welcome the PR :)",{"value":105,"source":48,"evidence":106},"Support lower-fee exchanges such as Huobi",[107],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"11369278","densmirnov","Just checked - yeah, on huobi.com it's possible to trade BTC against CNY without any fees. Is it possible to adapt pytrader to huobi?",[112,116],{"value":113,"source":48,"evidence":114},"Why trade crypto with real money rather than simulate?",[115],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"value":117,"source":48,"evidence":118},"Why trade BTC instead of cheaper assets on Interactive Brokers?",[119],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"11367649","lordnacho","This is quite interesting. Why trade BTC though, when you can just open an Interactive Brokers account and have access to a bunch of cheap assets?",[124,128,135],{"value":125,"source":48,"evidence":126},"Interactive Brokers",[127],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"value":129,"source":48,"evidence":130},"Uphold.com for zero-fee trades",[131],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"11373549","627467","Uphold.com is not exactly an exchange but has 0-fees for member trades for most exchange pairs. Wonder is this could be hooked to it.",{"value":136,"source":48,"evidence":137},"Huobi and BTCChina low-fee exchanges",[138],{"id":139,"by":109,"text":140},"11369212","Some chinese exchanges such as btcchina or huobi have very low trading fee or eventually doesn't take fee at all. 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