[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":506},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-12240542":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":75,"maker_in_thread":249,"shape":260,"grid":265,"attempts":468,"same_week":469,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":498,"reader_version":499,"card":500},"12240542","Gping.io","Like TinyURL for your car","title","Show HN: Gping.io – Like TinyURL for your car","http:\u002F\u002Fgping.io","gping.io","dustball",1470530644,2016,184,75,155,2264,7,"notable","hardware","car tracker","other",[21,24,25,26,27],"obd-ii","gps tracking","android","vehicle telemetry","curious",-0.181,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},6,27,2,15,50,{"idea":37,"pricing":39,"privacy":42,"performance":43,"docs":44,"execution":45},{"positive":38,"critical":18},4,{"positive":40,"critical":41},0,1,{"positive":40,"critical":31},{"positive":40,"critical":41},{"positive":41,"critical":40},{"positive":40,"critical":40},[47,48,48,40,41,48,48,41,41,40,40,41,47,48,41,41,40,41,48,48,48,41,41,47,40,48,48,48,48,41,48,48,40,40,41,48,48,48,48,47],5,3,null,{"problem":49,"audience":49,"pricing":51,"motivation":49,"time_to_build":49,"stack":58,"openness":74,"stage":74,"team_size":74},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"About $5 for the OBD-II adapter, plus a phone","maker",[55],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"12240688","Okay, my solution requires a $5 adapter. I did not know about this; really exciting to find a competitor with a solution 20 times as expensive. Thank you!",[59,67],{"value":60,"source":61,"evidence":62},"Bluetooth OBD-II adapter","commenter",[63],{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"12242234","detaro","You don't, they list a Bluetooth-OBD-adapter as a component?",{"value":68,"source":61,"evidence":69},"Android phone",[70],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"12241201","suhith","Like TinyURL for your car is kind of weak, but it seems super cool. Great use of an old android phone too!","unknown",{"praise":76,"objections":95,"requests":149,"questions":180,"alternatives":206},[77,84,88],{"value":78,"source":61,"evidence":79},"Build-your-own car tracker idea is cool and suits tinkerers",[80],{"id":81,"by":82,"text":83},"12240706","niftich","\"Like TinyURL for your car\" confused me too; sorry, I think that's a risk with catchy slogans. But, it's build-you-own-car-tracker (for 5 bucks)! That's pretty cool too, and…",{"value":85,"source":61,"evidence":86},"Good use of an old Android phone",[87],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},{"value":89,"source":61,"evidence":90},"Monitoring setup looks great",[91],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"12240755","btgeekboy","I own a wifi-based OBDII adapter, but two things concern me about it that likely apply here as well. 1) It's always on, as the port is always powered, to my knowledge. I usually…",[96,111,122,134],{"value":97,"source":61,"evidence":98},"TinyURL comparison is confusing",[99,103,107],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"12240684","phaed","I still don't get it. TinyURL gets a url and makes it smaller, how is this TinyURL for your car?",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"12240651","rakoo","It's an interesting idea, but I fail to see how it compares to TinyURL. Wouldn't this be closer to \"Quantified self for your car\" ? I could see the data plugged into something…",{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"12241738","jeffehobbs","Cool service, but I agree with comments below that state the analogy to TinyURL is not quite right. This seems more like “Find My iPhone” or “Find My Friends” for your car. It’s…",{"value":112,"source":61,"evidence":113},"No TLS and weak security for location data",[114,118],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"12241252","finnn","No TLS anywhere on the site, manually forcing it returns a cert for sni.dreamhost.com.... have you considered (1) ditching dreamhost and (2) getting basic security? This looks…",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"12240647","wcarss","There seem like so many ways to make this more secure than a public-but-hard-to-guess URL. Am I missing them? Does anyone have ideas on why it's a bad idea to for example require…",{"value":123,"source":61,"evidence":124},"Always-on OBD dongles can drain the battery or set off car alarms",[125,126,130],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"12241347","edent","Great idea. One thing to note is that some cars don't like OBD dongles which continually draw power after the vehicle shuts down. My BMW i3 sounds its alarm because it assumes…",{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"12243804","ianburrell","It depends on the module and the car. Some cars power the ODBII port all the time. Some dongles are smart enough to stop drawing power. I had cheap Bluetooth dongle that drained…",{"value":135,"source":61,"evidence":136},"OBD-II access is a security risk",[137,141,145],{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"12241571","sspiff","Judging by the number of car hacks through OBD-II lately, it sure sounds like a great idea to connect an always on, internet connected android phone with some dubious software to…",{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"12244096","thspimpolds","Something about android and an obd device working together terrifies me. Last thing I want a phone which has exploits galore being able to turn off my engine as I drive. Frankly…",{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"12240796","serf","> What can an attacker do given the device's built-in capabilities, and what else can they do if they're able to compromise it? well, bmw DIY people have been using the OBDII…",[150,158,162,169],{"value":151,"source":61,"evidence":152},"Add authentication instead of a hard-to-guess URL",[153,154],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"12246449","sangnoir","> Upon launch, gping.io will show you your distinctly private-but-shareable monitoring URL. This is bad for privacy if you will be using short URLs similar to TinyURL\u002Fbit.ly…",{"value":159,"source":61,"evidence":160},"Support self-hosting",[161],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},{"value":163,"source":61,"evidence":164},"Fleet management features such as maintenance reminders",[165],{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"12240658","Mister_Snuggles","I don't know if I'd describe it as \"TinyURL for your car\", but after reading about what it does the description makes sense. It might be hard for people to initially \"get\"…",{"value":170,"source":61,"evidence":171},"Rename the product to something clearer",[172,176],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"12241511","sah2ed","Like \"Find my iPhone but for your car\" has a better ring to it as suggested elsewhere in the thread.",{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"12242602","rburhum","I am not sure why everyone feels like they need to do a comparison with a pre-existing product. How about \"Find your Car\"",[181,192,199],{"value":182,"source":61,"evidence":183},"How is the data cost kept low on a prepaid plan",[184,188],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"12240831","botw","'gping.io only needs basic data services and consumes no \"minutes\". ', how is that achieved?",{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"12240820","kekub","Can you elaborate on a \"free\" prepaid plan? I do not know anything about RingPlus. However I know that there are a few prepaid providers that offer 100mb\u002Ffree a month. Would that…",{"value":193,"source":61,"evidence":194},"What tech stack and database handle real-time data",[195],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"12244304","uberneo","Do you mind sharing the Tech stack behind this .. does Android app is uploading data every second and how you are ingesting all this data in realtime .. which Database are you…",{"value":200,"source":61,"evidence":201},"How OBD-II data is read over USB",[202],{"id":203,"by":204,"text":205},"12242230","anysz","How do you obtain OBD-II data from simple USB connection?",[207,214,221,228,235,242],{"value":208,"source":61,"evidence":209},"Automatic",[210],{"id":211,"by":212,"text":213},"12240683","kingkool68","For $99 Automatic already does this https:\u002F\u002Fwww.automatic.com",{"value":215,"source":61,"evidence":216},"Samsara",[217],{"id":218,"by":219,"text":220},"12241023","mdergosits","Samsara [0] does this too. [0] https:\u002F\u002Fwww.samsara.com",{"value":222,"source":61,"evidence":223},"Telogis",[224],{"id":225,"by":226,"text":227},"12241070","toomanybeersies","This is exactly what Telogis (now owned by Verizon) does, except with dedicated hardware built in OEM.",{"value":229,"source":61,"evidence":230},"Mojio",[231],{"id":232,"by":233,"text":234},"12241030","Moto7451","Mojio[0] makes a neat integrated device that hits some of the same bullet points as this. I worked with some of their developers at an AT&T sponsored hackathon and had a good…",{"value":236,"source":61,"evidence":237},"dash.by",[238],{"id":239,"by":240,"text":241},"12241114","IgorPartola","There is also https:\u002F\u002Fdash.by which works with many cheap OBDII devices, including Bluetooth ones. 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