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I'm one of the creators of Carbide, and I'm really excited to share it with you all. We're thinking of releasing Carbide as open source in the coming weeks if there's a…",{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"12355579","nostrademons","I think that something like this will probably be the future of programming, but Carbide itself needs to dial it back and focus on which data visualizations give the biggest bang…",{"id":68,"by":11,"text":69},"12356019","A lot of Carbide's widgets depend on having access to a program's parse tree, which (to the extent of my understanding) a lot of these protocols (Jupyter\u002FMS's Language Server…",[71],{"value":72,"source":73,"evidence":74},"JavaScript","commenter",[75,79],{"id":76,"by":77,"text":78},"12355543","fake-name","\"A new programming environment\" for javascript. Welp, there goes my interest.",{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"12355615","chriswarbo","Looks like a cool project, but I can't scroll very far down the site before my browser crashes. I've reproduced this several times, here's the terminal output if it helps: ``` $…","unknown","beta",{"praise":86,"objections":113,"requests":160,"questions":181,"alternatives":205},[87,102],{"value":88,"source":73,"evidence":89},"Instant feedback and live visualization of run-time values are useful for exploration",[90,94,98],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"12355943","sebastianconcpt","I love instant feedback, it really changes the way you can create code because your cognitive system is unloaded of many assumptions to rely on real results (in-place evaluated…",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"12355693","hugozap","This is great. Tools like this are useful when exploring a problem, it's very handy to have the instant feedback. 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I will probably never use it because it is not flexible enough to run anywhere and on VPSes without friction, but I sincerely hope you succeed.",[161,176],{"value":162,"source":73,"evidence":163},"Open source the project",[164,168,172],{"id":165,"by":166,"text":167},"12355810","fizx","> We're thinking of releasing Carbide as open source in the coming weeks if there's a community interested in building stuff on top of it I'll be hitting refresh until you do :)",{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"12359075","peternicky","Awesome work!! Please release the source!",{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"12356607","cercatrova","Open source?",{"value":177,"source":178,"evidence":179},"Support more languages","maker",[180],{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},[182,194],{"value":183,"source":73,"evidence":184},"How does it compare to Tonic, LightTable or Jupyter?",[185,189,193],{"id":186,"by":187,"text":188},"12355739","nhaliday","Any comments on how your project compares to https:\u002F\u002Ftonicdev.com\u002Fhome? It looks like y'all are really aiming for Bret Victor-style direct manipulation, which is a bit more…",{"id":190,"by":191,"text":192},"12355405","hibbelig","How does this compare to LightTable?",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},{"value":195,"source":73,"evidence":196},"How does the backwards computation work?",[197,201],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"12356697","NarcolepticFrog","I'm curious about how the backwards computations work - how do you detect when the backwards computation can be easily calculated? 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