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I'd love to see a simple, light-weight, elegant alternative to Google Docs.",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"12392769","vtempest","This contributes nothing more than \u003Cdiv contenteditable> and to present this a document editor is counter-productive to users searching for something reliable. The link below…",{"value":103,"source":73,"evidence":104},"Text does not reflow across pages in browser view",[105,109],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"12396939","stephenr","Adding content to the first \"page\" doesn't cause the content below it to re-flow onto the second page. Is that a bug, or is it not intended to work that way?",{"id":110,"by":107,"text":111},"12400232","When i viewed the print preview it seemed broken too - the content in the first on-screen page (which was too long) became two pages, and then in the print preview it forced a…",{"value":113,"source":73,"evidence":114},"Built-in browser print-to-PDF makes it less needed",[115,119],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"12392764","tantalor","\"Print to PDF\" isn't clientside enough for you?",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"12393262","creshal","Every browser in Linux and OSX does it, and doesn't Windows 10 ship with a built-in PDF printer too?",[124,131,137],{"value":125,"source":73,"evidence":126},"Client-side PDF generation",[127],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"12392652","kowdermeister","It's possible to generate PDF client side. 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