[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":530},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-13616751":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":84,"maker_in_thread":195,"shape":197,"grid":201,"attempts":492,"same_week":493,"maker_shows":347,"maker_hidden":522,"reader_version":523,"card":524},"13616751","Aragon","Everything you need to run your company on Ethereum","title","Show HN: Aragon – Everything you need to run your company on Ethereum","https:\u002F\u002Faragon.one","aragon.one","luisivan",1486745250,2017,191,117,178,2242,8,"notable","web_saas","blockchain company management","web_app",[24,25,26,27,28],"ethereum","blockchain company","decentralized autonomous organization","smart contracts","solidity","roasted",-0.436,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":32,"critical":34},2,34,40,78,{"idea":37,"execution":40,"docs":42,"privacy":44,"design":45},{"positive":38,"critical":39},1,27,{"positive":38,"critical":41},9,{"positive":43,"critical":38},0,{"positive":43,"critical":32},{"positive":43,"critical":43},[47,32,32,38,38,32,38,38,38,47,38,32,47,47,38,43,47,38,38,38,38,43,43,43,38,38,48,47,38,38,38,32,43,43,38,38,38,38,47,38],3,5,null,{"problem":51,"audience":49,"pricing":49,"motivation":59,"time_to_build":49,"stack":63,"openness":82,"stage":83,"team_size":82},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Running a company with contracts on Ethereum instead of traditional legal and banking systems","commenter",[55],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},"13617226","izqui","This is Jorge, Tech Lead at Aragon, a platform for creating companies on top of the Ethereum blockchain (DACs). 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If we enter into some arbitrary crypto-contract for me to build you a chair in exchange for 20 currencies, and I bring…",{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"13619009","joosters","Then what's the point of doing the transaction with a digital contract in the first place? Weren't they meant to remove the need for trust or centralised arbitration? We already…",{"value":131,"source":53,"evidence":132},"Early product is buggy and has invite limits",[133,137,141],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"13618595","efields","\"It may take a while to load – beware of the bugs and glitches. Chrome-only for now\" Says so much with so little.",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"13617522","vitiell0","When I try to enter my email for the mailing list I am getting the error: invite_limit_reached I'd like to just keep up with the project. 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I'd probably be willing to use this for…",{"id":154,"by":57,"text":155},"13617493","I completely agree, insurance and proper bug bounty mechanisms are being worked on.",{"value":157,"source":53,"evidence":158},"Publish the contracts source code",[159],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},[161,165,172],{"value":162,"source":53,"evidence":163},"How does it handle taxes and government regulation?",[164],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},{"value":166,"source":53,"evidence":167},"What happens if the contract has a flaw?",[168],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"13617330","empath75","So what happens when someone finds a flaw in the contract and empties you out?",{"value":173,"source":53,"evidence":174},"Is aragon.one itself built on Aragon?",[175],{"id":176,"by":177,"text":178},"13617981","alexmingoia","Is https:\u002F\u002Faragon.one itself using Aragon? 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