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I built dazzle with Antoine out of the frustration of having to use tabs on mobile. We wanted to explore a shared history\u002Ftabs mechanism that we expected to be…",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"14285777","cupcakestand","Tried Dazzle few times this afternoon and this browser is just brilliant. 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