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Here's my unsolicited opinion: you preemptively answer \"why wouldn't I just use git?\" but I think \"why is this better than track changes?\" is the question prospective users…",{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"14554436","gigelu","This is interesting, but what's wrong with \"Track Changes\"? (a feature Word had for at least 10+ years now). I believe for most people that is more than enough for version…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"14553850","bArray","Firstly, great job in getting that mess to play well with Git! ``` The main limitation with Git is that it only works with plain text (think Windows Notepad). I have seen authors…",[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":72,"objections":108,"requests":147,"questions":165,"alternatives":177},[73,93],{"value":74,"source":75,"evidence":76},"Useful idea that fills a real need for versioning Word documents","commenter",[77,81,85,89],{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"14553452","bambax","Many others have said it already, but I'll say it again: 1. You have a fantastic product 2. Many potential users won't accept to have their documents stored \"in the cloud\" (even…",{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},"14552883","rsp1984","Finally someone is doing this! I've been toying with the idea myself but haven't been able to dedicate time to it, mostly I was deterred by the MS Word format mess. I'm sure it…",{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"14553570","thebiglebrewski","I think if you can get people to use this and try it, you're going to make a ton of cash. This has been needed for years and doing it within Word sounds to me like the absolute…",{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"14553422","forkLding","I think this is a good product, once worked in strategy as an intern at a bank and we basically used manual versioning where we would version using date and time or even content,…",{"value":94,"source":75,"evidence":95},"Could be valuable for compliance-heavy fields like banking, legal and engineering",[96,100,104],{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"14553199","ellius","I could recommend this for something like bank compliance. We're stuck with Word and have a largely non-technical staff, but could dramatically improve our performance if our…",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"14554539","TickleSteve","Significant. Most engineering firms (web dev \u003C\u003C the development world) have a need for proper documentation, and LibreOffice generally won't cut it either.",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"14553233","tmaly","If you had a version that companies could install on a private internal network, you could easily charge between $100 and $1000 a month for this. I work in legal and compliance…",[109,124,136],{"value":110,"source":75,"evidence":111},"Cloud hosting of confidential documents is a barrier; wants on-premise or self-hosting",[112,116,120],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"14553121","Beltiras","This fills a niche I need but I can't use a service where I upload the documents to your server (unless you can show certification of at least ISO 27001). I would also be willing…",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"14553095","nvlr","This is very cool, and I wish we had something like this, but I don't see many law firms going for it. Most law firms (and I would guess all major ones) will not allow uploading…",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"14555398","ZenoArrow","Good idea in general, but with one major flaw: no self-hosting option. I can't imagine lawyers will be queuing up to host their sensitive legal documents on someone else's server.",{"value":125,"source":75,"evidence":126},"Built-in Word Track Changes and SharePoint versioning may already be enough",[127,128,132],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"14553205","therealmarv","THIS is how Sharepoint should have worked from day 1. But I guess Microsoft thinks normal office workers won't get version history in their mind.",{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"14555913","moontear","Unfortunately can't check it out because I get \"We are checking what's changed in this version. Won't be long...\" for any test docx I upload \u002F blank docx. 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You don’t necessarily want the real-time coauthoring experience offered by…",[148,153,158],{"value":149,"source":75,"evidence":150},"Self-hosting or on-premise installation option",[151,152],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},{"value":154,"source":75,"evidence":155},"Compare against Track Changes and SharePoint versioning in marketing",[156,157],{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"value":159,"source":75,"evidence":160},"Ability to delete documents",[161],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"14554585","ythn","Is there any way to delete documents? I uploaded a trash document just to try it out, but now I can never delete it - only \"archive it\" which is bugging the OCD side of me",[166,170],{"value":167,"source":75,"evidence":168},"How does it handle complex formatting changes?",[169],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"value":171,"source":75,"evidence":172},"Why does installation need admin rights?",[173],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"14558513","fleurdelotus","Why do you need admin rights to install?",[178,189,197,204],{"value":179,"source":75,"evidence":180},"Google Docs",[181,185],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"14552685","mtgx","So Google Docs? It seems close enough. What's the main advantage over Google Docs?",{"id":186,"by":187,"text":188},"14552700","Khao","Word is tons more powerful than Google Docs, has add-ins, way more formatting and styling. In my mind, Google Doc is not a direct competitor to Word when it comes to professional…",{"value":190,"source":75,"evidence":191},"SharePoint versioning",[192,196],{"id":193,"by":194,"text":195},"14553159","yazan94","Hey OP, this looks like an awesome tool, good job! Just a quick question, would the primary alternative to your product be Microsoft Sharepoint? If so, how would you market your…",{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},{"value":198,"source":75,"evidence":199},"Git with pandoc conversion to markdown",[200],{"id":201,"by":202,"text":203},"14552790","koolba","I've used git for word docs for years now. Using pandoc to convert them to markdown allows sensible diffs to be displayed as well. 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