[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":819},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-14597485":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":49,"post_text":50,"what":51,"said":78,"maker_in_thread":213,"shape":226,"grid":230,"attempts":780,"same_week":781,"maker_shows":33,"maker_hidden":811,"reader_version":812,"card":813},"14597485","NBox","Sign up anywhere without giving your email address","title","Show HN: NBox – Sign up anywhere without giving your email address","https:\u002F\u002Fnbox.notif.me","nbox.notif.me","bdav24",1497985483,2017,286,204,78,2242,4,"legend","security_privacy","disposable email addresses","browser_extension",[24,25,26,27],"anonymous email","email alias","spam filter","private email","mixed",-0.254,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},11,20,2,28,61,{"execution":37,"design":40,"idea":41,"privacy":44,"pricing":47,"docs":48},{"positive":38,"critical":39},1,5,{"positive":38,"critical":18},{"positive":42,"critical":43},8,12,{"positive":45,"critical":46},0,3,{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":45,"critical":46},[45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,45,46,45,38,18,38,38,46,45,45,46,45,38,38,18,38,18,46,38,38,46,38,46,46,38,33,38,46,38,38,33],null,{"problem":52,"audience":50,"pricing":62,"motivation":66,"time_to_build":50,"stack":75,"openness":76,"stage":77,"team_size":76},{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Signing up to services exposes your real email address to spam and data sharing.","maker",[56,59],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},"14597507","Hi, I'm David, one of the developers of nBox. nBox generates for you an email address for each site, for free. - Effortlessly thanks to our browser extensions - Addresses are…",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"14598213","Hi water42, don't ever trust anyone with your data, governments and big companies get hacked every day. Our angle: we don't ask for any personal information.",{"value":63,"source":54,"evidence":64},"Free to generate addresses.",[65],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"value":67,"source":54,"evidence":68},"Control over who owns your information, filtering semi-wanted email.",[69,72],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"14597856","Hi jswny, jacobwg is right, the addresses are private (and anonymous because we don't ask any information). I'd say the use case is to filter \"semi-wanted\" emails.",{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"14601725","Hi synicalx, I used that method for many years too, but with time the emails end up piling up. That's manageable of course, but it feels nice to control exactly who owns your…",[],"unknown","beta",{"praise":79,"objections":95,"requests":138,"questions":151,"alternatives":175},[80,88],{"value":81,"source":82,"evidence":83},"Useful concept for heavy internet users.","commenter",[84],{"id":85,"by":86,"text":87},"14597570","highstarter","It's a neat concept and useful especially for heavy internet users.",{"value":89,"source":82,"evidence":90},"Similar to 1Password for email addresses; would be useful.",[91],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"14598729","mccolin","This seems like it's almost \"1Password for Email Addresses,\" which would be pretty great: go to site, hit key combination, have random\u002Fsaved email inserted into login boxes.…",[96,105,116,127],{"value":97,"source":82,"evidence":98},"Spammers can remove the plus-suffix or guess addresses, so the approach is weak against spam.",[99,102],{"id":100,"by":11,"text":101},"14605016","Hi kchr, no you're not the only one to use the plus sign. As already discussed in this feed, the + part can easily be removed by spammers.",{"id":103,"by":11,"text":104},"14598259","Hi toddmorey, yes a well-known trick ;) The downside is that the + part can be easily removed by spammers.",{"value":106,"source":82,"evidence":107},"Shutdown or lost service could lock users out of account recovery.",[108,112],{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"14599832","midnitewarrior","So what's it like when NBox goes under and you can't recover your password on any of your sites?",{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"14599057","nkkollaw","If the service is down or I want to stop using it I'm totally screwed, though. Usually if I forget the password to a service they can send me a reset link, what would my options…",{"value":117,"source":82,"evidence":118},"Browser extension only; no mobile or login support yet.",[119,123],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"14597915","iliketosleep","I am trying to understand this. Appears to offer bulk accounts that are easy to create and permanent, targeting the market that sits between a) regular email addresses, which are…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"14601158","monista","I tried to \"Create my nbox\" (or \"Generate an address\") and it sent me to Chrome addons site. Is it Chrome-only web service?",{"value":128,"source":82,"evidence":129},"Domain may get blacklisted by services.",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"14600132","hota_mazi","Most of these new email services overlook a few very important details which guarantee that they will probably not be around in a year: 1. You need to have multiple domains. If…",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"14598784","ajnin","Presumably if I don't want to receive spam emails I'm also unlikely to allow a website to send me notifications. I'm unlikely as well to install an extension for a very specific…",[139,144],{"value":140,"source":82,"evidence":141},"Firefox and mobile support.",[142,143],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},{"value":145,"source":82,"evidence":146},"Self-hosting option.",[147],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"14598002","ikeboy","1. Great idea. It's been done by Blur from Abine.com which I've been using for years. 2. Possibly offer the ability to self host this?",[152,163],{"value":153,"source":82,"evidence":154},"How does login work and how is the account recovered?",[155,159],{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"14598257","bigtunacan","I think this is a good idea, but pretty poorly executed again. Another user commented that you could just register your own domain and do this; that's great for the average…",{"id":160,"by":161,"text":162},"14599670","markwakeford","So a lot of systems these days use email password recovery, is this not just adding another attack vector ?. > bdav24: Hi water42, don't ever trust anyone with your data,…",{"value":164,"source":82,"evidence":165},"How is this different from mailhero, 33mail, spamgourmet or Blur?",[166,170,174],{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"14598013","sashk","How is this different from, let's say mailhero.io?",{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"14599098","JadeNB","The FAQ says that it's not a disposeable-e-mail-generator, but the description of what it does makes it seem like that's exactly what it is. (Maybe it means that it doesn't…",{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},[176,187,194,198,202,206],{"value":177,"source":82,"evidence":178},"Catch-all domain email forwarding.",[179,183],{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"14597765","_Marak_","As an alternative, you could register a domain with a catch-all email address and simply register for new services on the fly using a unique string for each site. Have the…",{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"14599248","talove","I've had a catch-all for *@mydomain.com forward to my primary email address for 10+ years. In that time I signed up for services and websites with [domain]@mydomain.com thinking…",{"value":188,"source":82,"evidence":189},"33mail.",[190],{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},"14599381","StavrosK","I've been using 33mail.com for years for this. I just give it an address like \"hackernews@username.33mail.com\" and it forwards email. If hackernews ever starts spamming, 33mail…",{"value":195,"source":82,"evidence":196},"mailhero.io.",[197],{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},{"value":199,"source":82,"evidence":200},"Spamgourmet.",[201],{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},{"value":203,"source":82,"evidence":204},"Blur from Abine.",[205],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},{"value":207,"source":82,"evidence":208},"Mailinator.",[209],{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"14597741","jswny","So how is this different from something like Mailinator.com? In my opinion, I can't see a use case in which I'd care enough to have my temporary email private. If I cared enough…",{"comments":214,"answered":215,"key":216},44,23,[217,220,223],{"id":218,"text":219},"14601225","Hi Sohcahtoa82, selling might not happen that often (fortunately), but data leaks happen very often (see http:\u002F\u002Fbreachlevelindex.com\u002F for example)",{"id":221,"text":222},"14598418","Hi singularity2001, maskme (blur now) is a bit different. If they get hacked, spammers will get your email address and other information.",{"id":224,"text":225},"14598397","Hi bigtunacan, thanks for your feedback. 1) \"That's going to be a pain in the ass to remember\": the extensions are there so you don't have to. 2) \"how do I login?\": 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