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It's already so counterintuitive, I'm curious if the additional information available when…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},"15292442","moron4hire","No, not \"just as well\". It's a very well known problem that 2D displays create ambiguity in 3D visualizations.",{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},"15292232","gmueckl","I've hacked together some small VR visualizations for multidimensional data with particularly hard to understand structure and my experience with that was: 1. Moving through the…",{"value":67,"source":52,"evidence":68},"Students and engineers working with complex maths or multidimensional data.",[69,72],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"15290486","Nanome Team member here. Can't blame you for the skepticism, the blockchain space is full of nonsense these days. We are, in fact, running a token sale for our decentralized R&D…",{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"15290502","Calcflow team member here. We are working on something very special involving AR :) Should be released in coming weeks. We think EDU users may benefit greatly from AR…",{"value":76,"source":77,"evidence":78},"Custom source-available license that prohibits commercial reuse; Steam listing exists.","maker",[79,83,86],{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"15289967","j_s","What purpose does the custom license serve? Of all the hills to die on for a project with source available on Github... > This project is licensed under the NANOME VR PRODUCT…",{"id":84,"by":11,"text":85},"15296702","The primary function is to prevent commercial reuse. We work with a lot of institutional and enterprise clients and it's a bit complicated to protect their purchase of our…",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"15295465","stevenano","Calcflow is available on STEAM http:\u002F\u002Fstore.steampowered.com\u002Fapp\u002F547280\u002FCalcflow\u002F",{"value":91,"source":77,"evidence":92},"Making complex maths more intuitive, with a planned decentralized R&D platform (Matryx).",[93,94],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},[96],{"value":97,"source":98,"evidence":99},"Unity","commenter",[100,104],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"15294510","thenomad","Very neat tool indeed! Is there a binary I can download and run? I don't know what version of Unity you used so I don't really want to compile myself if I can avoid it :) EDIT -…",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"15294158","lux","Impressive to see that this was built in Unity!","open_source","launched","company",{"praise":112,"objections":127,"requests":161,"questions":193,"alternatives":208},[113,118],{"value":114,"source":98,"evidence":115},"Interactive 3D projections could improve intuition for 4D geometry.",[116,117],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},{"value":119,"source":98,"evidence":120},"Great, neat tool; the VR exploration is intuitive.",[121,125,126],{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"15290252","sus_007","IMO, an AR implementation of visualization would be more interactive than a VR. Overall, great job.",{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},[128,139,147,154],{"value":129,"source":98,"evidence":130},"Unclear advantage of VR over a monitor for this.",[131,135],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"15291581","azinman2","Sorry for the skepticism, but what’s the advantage of this being in VR? Seems like a 3D visualization that I can see on a monitor \u002F iPhone just as well?",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"15291470","AlexDanger","This requires a VR headset? No mouse controls?",{"value":140,"source":98,"evidence":141},"Custom license is not truly open source and smells of an ICO\u002Fblockchain tie-in.",[142,143],{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"15291017","AndrewCHM","So, a 3d graphing program, competing with the TI-84+ from the project's README... Is going to be notably tied to a custom eth token? That idea does seem to contribute to the…",{"value":148,"source":98,"evidence":149},"Requires a VR headset with no mouse or monitor support.",[150,151],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},{"id":152,"by":137,"text":153},"15291679","Just wondering if it will or will not work with a mouse and a monitor. The application is still very relavent without VR.",{"value":155,"source":98,"evidence":156},"Learning maths needs practice, not just visualization.",[157],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"15293790","tw1010","I agree that the project is cool. But I just want to give the answer that always aught to be given whenever someone on HN says \"I wish we had X when I was learning this stuff\",…",[162,170,177,185],{"value":163,"source":98,"evidence":164},"Support mouse and monitor use, not only VR.",[165,166],{"id":152,"by":137,"text":153},{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"15293824","zubairq","I just posted on the main thread, but you can make your project work with mouse and keyboard as well as VR, as I have done with my project here:…",{"value":171,"source":98,"evidence":172},"Walk\u002Ffly-through visualization of higher-dimensional data.",[173],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"15291511","Libbum","From the readme it looks like the visualisation is off to the side in a self contained box. What I'd really want to do is have walk\u002Ffly through capability to visualise…",{"value":178,"source":98,"evidence":179},"Low-latency updates and performance stress tests.",[180,184],{"id":181,"by":182,"text":183},"15290368","carapace","The thing I most want from a system like this is low-latency update.",{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},{"value":186,"source":98,"evidence":187},"Release on Steam or AR support.",[188,189],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},{"id":190,"by":191,"text":192},"15290262","haydenlee","How would AR make this more interactive? I haven't seen one AR device with an interaction model as good as VR. I also don't know why you'd want to set the real world while…",[194,198,204],{"value":195,"source":98,"evidence":196},"How many data points before noticeable lag?",[197],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},{"value":199,"source":98,"evidence":200},"Why a custom license instead of a standard open source one?",[201],{"id":202,"by":81,"text":203},"15290618","Thank you for taking the time to respond. Do you know why the project is released under a custom license, rather than something familiar? If this could be summarized in a few…",{"value":205,"source":98,"evidence":206},"How does AR make it more interactive?",[207],{"id":190,"by":191,"text":192},[209,216,220],{"value":210,"source":98,"evidence":211},"4D Toys (Steam)",[212],{"id":213,"by":214,"text":215},"15296081","Impossible","Have you seen 4D toys (http:\u002F\u002Fstore.steampowered.com\u002Fapp\u002F619210\u002F4D_Toys\u002F)? 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