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Most fax services require you to have an account, which is really heavyweight for most people who really only have to send a fax a few times a year (if at all).",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"15485844","Thanks! EDIT: there’s definitely something to this thesis. In the case of faxes, they are an interface to older entities (government agencies and some businesses) and the unit…",{"value":62,"source":63,"evidence":64},"Occasional fax senders such as people dealing with government agencies or medical offices","commenter",[65,66,70],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"15486719","brut","Faxing medical documents.",{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"15488329","fomojola","Oddly enough, one of the drivers for building this was actually having to fax a signed doc for a background check (needed for an office lease) in early 2016. 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