[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":590},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-15757844":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":46,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":82,"maker_in_thread":240,"shape":246,"grid":249,"attempts":551,"same_week":552,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":582,"reader_version":583,"card":584},"15757844","LogoFox","fast logo maker","title","Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker","https:\u002F\u002Flogofox.co\u002Fform\u002Fname?utm_source=hackernews","logofox.co","alantrum",1511366894,2017,431,106,27,2242,2,"legend","creative","logo maker","web_app",[21,24,25,26],"logo generator","logo design","brand logo","roasted",-0.418,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},6,19,4,37,66,{"docs":36,"pricing":39,"execution":41,"performance":43,"idea":44,"design":45},{"positive":37,"critical":38},0,1,{"positive":37,"critical":40},3,{"positive":37,"critical":42},16,{"positive":37,"critical":32},{"positive":18,"critical":32},{"positive":38,"critical":30},[38,37,37,37,37,38,38,38,40,38,38,47,40,18,38,40,38,38,40,40,38,40,47,38,38,38,38,38,38,38,38,38,38,37,37,47,37,38,38,32],5,null,{"problem":50,"audience":62,"pricing":70,"motivation":48,"time_to_build":48,"stack":79,"openness":80,"stage":81,"team_size":80},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Creating a logo quickly without hiring a designer","inferred",[54,58],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},"15758385","rsoto","> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},"15758173","hitgeek","the pricing seems high for this service. $30 for a computer generated logo. $990 for a professionally designed logo. I'm pretty sure you can get a computer generated logo for…",{"value":63,"source":52,"evidence":64},"Small businesses and people needing a logo with little budget",[65,69],{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"15758074","themodelplumber","The mobile version needs help. I'm not sure I'd recommend this to my clients who have zero budget vs some of the other googlable logo makers (I'm a graphic designer who does…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},{"value":71,"source":72,"evidence":73},"Logos sold per design; one logo priced at $19 and a $30 tier mentioned in comments","commenter",[74,78],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"15760579","e2e4","pricing: 1 logo for $19 only p.s. info displayed in the end of the process:",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":83,"objections":95,"requests":153,"questions":202,"alternatives":217},[84],{"value":85,"source":72,"evidence":86},"Works better than expected and is a good enough MVP",[87,91],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"15758295","andys627","Works better than expected - nice! Wasn't sure what to do at the icons screen. Maybe \"close\" should be \"see logo ideas\".",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"15760467","geetfun","Congrats on the launch. Yes, some folks have mentioned about the UI not being optimized or whatever. But it's easy to defer launching with the hope that everything would be…",[96,110,125,139,143],{"value":97,"source":72,"evidence":98},"IP and licensing risk from icons and fonts used in logos",[99,103,107],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"15758092","esquivalience","Fantastic concept! But I'm completely turned off by the IP terms ([1] below). This suggests LogoFox is pushing icons without doing IP checks, and selling them as finished logo…",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"15758411","detaro","Ok, why pay for a deliverable I might not be legally allowed to use, or might be associated with unknown follow-on costs to aquire that right? They are obtaining third-party…",{"id":108,"by":11,"text":109},"15763969","Hi, Alan from LogoFox here. I understand your concern regarding the IP terms. I will make it straight and simple. 1) We use third-party icons from The Noun Project. We use their…",{"value":111,"source":72,"evidence":112},"Poor UI and buttons with no feedback",[113,117,121],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"15758087","rkeene2","I tried it out and the UI is poor. Things like clicking buttons don't result in any user-visible action, like a page loading, or even something bad (but not as terrible as…",{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"15758108","LeonM","Doesn't seem to work, if I choose text+logo, I only get a square with the first letter of the name I chose. Also, the icon browser needs some kind of loading indicator, now I…",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"15758786","deckar01","The search is case sensitive which produces no result when your phone starts with caps automatically. I selected icon only, picked an icon, clicked close, and it showed me a…",{"value":126,"source":72,"evidence":127},"Generated logos look generic and basic",[128,131,135],{"id":129,"by":56,"text":130},"15758356","Great concept, congrats on shipping. I think there's a big market for automatic logo creation, however I don't think using icons from The Noun Project is the answer because the…",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"15761639","quickthrower2","I'd change the heart button to \"Like it & Save It\". I was clicking Like it loads of times expecting something to happen then realized I was never going to get a logo doing that.…",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"15767209","harrygeez","Looking at the design on the generated logos, I'd say freelance designers need not worry for now",{"value":140,"source":72,"evidence":141},"Pricing too high for automatic output",[142],{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},{"value":144,"source":72,"evidence":145},"Purchase failures reported",[146,150],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"15760301","dlo83","I tried to buy a logo, but kept receiving a \"Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support.\" Needless to say, not a good first impression.",{"id":151,"by":148,"text":152},"15760309","I tried to buy a logo, but received a \"Purchase Failed. Please try again or contact support\" message. Not a great UX, to say the least.",[154,169,180,191],{"value":155,"source":72,"evidence":156},"Ability to go back and download or save favourite logos",[157,161,165],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"15758584","ghostbrainalpha","I found one that I really liked. So I clicked \"I like it\", but now it is gone! I would really like a way to go back, so I could actually download, or screenshot my favorite.",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"15759684","the_arun","Would be great if we have 1. Back button\u002Flink as well to go back and compare 2. Facility to short list icons and compare later to decide final version",{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"15760326","Ne02ptzero","You should add a previous.",{"value":170,"source":72,"evidence":171},"Better mobile and landscape support",[172,176],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"15758012","hayksaakian","A little clunky on mobile, but the output is super cool. My major annoyance is \"trapping\" the back button so I can't go back.",{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"15759763","lazycouchpotato","Website doesn't seem to be working in landscape mode on phones.",{"value":181,"source":72,"evidence":182},"Support for non-alphanumeric and non-English brand names",[183,187],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"15760739","xmichael99","Why only alpha numerics? Totally fails me because of that",{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"15758704","caio1982","Does not accept non-english brand names.",{"value":192,"source":72,"evidence":193},"Respect custom capitalisation and word breaks",[194,198],{"id":195,"by":196,"text":197},"15762705","slededit","You should respect the capitalization in at least some of the suggested logos. I either got all caps, or only the first letter capitalized. If someone uses a non standard…",{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"15760386","WaxProlix","Seems like it'd be good to be able to specify word breaks. For my little consulting company name, Forthright, it assumes that the word breaks are \"For\" and \"thright\", which…",[203,210],{"value":204,"source":72,"evidence":205},"How invoicing and VAT work",[206],{"id":207,"by":208,"text":209},"15759107","Todoit","How does invoicing work when you use such a service? Where does it come from? Does it include VAT? I tried to figure that out via the chat, but the developer said he is \"not…",{"value":211,"source":72,"evidence":212},"Whether the tool uses AI",[213],{"id":214,"by":215,"text":216},"15760853","dreamling","This reminds me of https:\u002F\u002Flogojoy.com\u002F Does LogoFox also use AI (as logojoy said they do https:\u002F\u002Flogojoy.com\u002Fpress\u002F)",[218,226,233],{"value":219,"source":72,"evidence":220},"LogoJoy",[221,225],{"id":222,"by":223,"text":224},"15758164","marpstar","I used LogoJoy [1] a year or so ago to create a logo for my side business. This appears to have a lot of the same \"designs\" available as LogoJoy, but with a much less intuitive…",{"id":214,"by":215,"text":216},{"value":227,"source":72,"evidence":228},"LogoDust",[229],{"id":230,"by":231,"text":232},"15758515","softwareqrafter","Cool! I would also love to recommend http:\u002F\u002Flogodust.com, for open sourced logo designs made by a design agency [1] that you can download and use for free. 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