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The contract that distributes donations also transfers a fixed fee to my account. For instance, see:…",{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"15908981","The fee does go towards hosting the campaign page. Also GiveHongBao doesn't charge for the deployment of the campaign contract--- that is paid out of my own account, so charging…",{"value":59,"source":60,"evidence":61},"Campaign creators raising Ethereum for causes, worldwide","inferred",[62],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},{"value":64,"source":50,"evidence":65},"Free to create a campaign; flat fee of about one dollar per donation",[66,67],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},{"value":69,"source":50,"evidence":70},"Build a cheaper, global alternative to GoFundMe and Patreon using Ethereum",[71,72],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},{"value":74,"source":50,"evidence":75},"A few months: weekend for the contract, several weeks of nights and weekends for the UI",[76],{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},"15908915","OP here. I started this project a few months ago, around early October. I wrote the meat of the solidity contract in a weekend or so, but the hardest part (of course) was writing…",[80,84,88,92],{"value":81,"source":50,"evidence":82},"Solidity",[83],{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},{"value":85,"source":50,"evidence":86},"React",[87],{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},{"value":89,"source":50,"evidence":90},"Web3",[91],{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},{"value":93,"source":50,"evidence":94},"Infura",[95],{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":100,"objections":113,"requests":158,"questions":182,"alternatives":205},[101,109],{"value":102,"source":103,"evidence":104},"Simple, MVP-like design","commenter",[105],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"15908867","jaequery","Refreshingly simple, this is one of the better display of what an MVP is. Congrats!",{"value":110,"source":50,"evidence":111},"Lower fees than GoFundMe or Patreon",[112],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},[114,125,135,142,148],{"value":115,"source":103,"evidence":116},"Shady: the maker may pocket donations meant for causes",[117,121],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"15908459","tree_of_item","You're raising money on behalf of other people and, presumably, pocketing some of it (even if you're say you're not, how do we know for sure?) Brave is doing this sort of thing…",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"15908619","atrudeau","\"We don't charge a percentage of what people give. Instead, we charge a flat amount for any amount donated. Keep more of what people give.\" I don't think is the Ethereum gas…",{"value":126,"source":103,"evidence":127},"Proceeds to EFF are sold off-chain, so they cannot be verified on the blockchain",[128,131],{"id":129,"by":119,"text":130},"15908745","> That's what Ethereum is for. It's completely public and can't be tampered with, so you can check exactly where the money is going. Except the page admits there will be a delay…",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"15908918","cocktailpeanuts","You're right. Just read it again and saw: > Each month I'll sell the wallet's contents and donate the proceeds to them, providing proof via my Twitter account. There are too many…",{"value":136,"source":103,"evidence":137},"Flat fee charged on donations is unjustified",[138,141],{"id":139,"by":123,"text":140},"15908581","This should be free and GiveHongBao should have their own donation page within the system. Charging a fee (even if flat) for donations doesn't feel right. They aren't offering…",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},{"value":143,"source":103,"evidence":144},"Hong Bao name is confusing for non-Chinese speakers",[145],{"id":146,"by":133,"text":147},"15908529","That's what Ethereum is for. It's completely public and can't be tampered with, so you can check exactly where the money is going. Btw. most people people who don't know Chinese…",{"value":149,"source":103,"evidence":150},"Site looks suspicious: \u002Fcampaigns 404s and homepage is sparse",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"15908224","hellbanner","https:\u002F\u002Fgivehongbao.com\u002Fcampaigns 404?",{"id":156,"by":153,"text":157},"15951461","Yeah, when home page only has \"Login\" and \"Create Campaign\" and \u002Fcampaigns 404s, it makes me skeptical the site is legit",[159,165,175],{"value":160,"source":103,"evidence":161},"Make fees and contract mechanics clearer on the site",[162],{"id":163,"by":123,"text":164},"15910146","Please make the mechanics and fees clearer on the website. Linking to and explaining the contract would be great for transparency. With that done, I think your service can be…",{"value":166,"source":103,"evidence":167},"List live campaigns at \u002Fcampaigns",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"15908614","strictnein","https:\u002F\u002Fgivehongbao.com\u002Fcampaigns might be a good place to list the campaigns that are currently live.",{"id":173,"by":11,"text":174},"15909040","Indeed! That's a great suggestion ...",{"value":176,"source":103,"evidence":177},"Open source the project",[178],{"id":179,"by":180,"text":181},"15913114","germainelol","I realise that you would probably won't do this, but it'd be awesome to see some of this open sourced. Despite being reasonably experienced, the idea of building an API that…",[183,187,194],{"value":184,"source":103,"evidence":185},"How does the maker verify the money reaches the cause?",[186],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},{"value":188,"source":103,"evidence":189},"Why not send crypto directly to any address?",[190],{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},"15912657","FrozenVoid","Why people can't just send cryptocurrency from their wallet to any address they want to donate instantly?",{"value":195,"source":103,"evidence":196},"What does the name mean?",[197,201],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"15908586","Kiro","I'm curious about the name.",{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"15908662","yen223","HongBao means \"red envelope\" in mandarin. 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