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In other words, you can extend the language…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},"16006540","Sed here, (the author) Image tag in Sundown is easier than Markdown: ``` :s:img http:\u002F\u002Flink-to-image.jpg image alt tag ``` Or how about embedding a tweet: ``` :twitter:embed…",{"value":61,"source":52,"evidence":62},"developers with HTML knowledge building websites",[63],{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"16006657","Sed here (the author). SunSed is for developers with HTML knowledge. You can use SunSed language to create custom HTML tags (abstract HTML, CSS and JavaScript) and then Sundown…",{"value":67,"source":52,"evidence":68},"Markdown was too slow and too limited to extend with custom elements",[69,72],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"16006568","At SunSed we provide a cloud IDE to our users so they can easily update their website. Every time they make a change the IDE automatically saves the file and on the server we had…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":77,"objections":97,"requests":139,"questions":148,"alternatives":153},[78,90],{"value":79,"source":80,"evidence":81},"Clear, elegant syntax with good use cases like messaging","commenter",[82,86],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"16006039","liquidise","Great solution. Given the problem statements that lead to this, i was pleasantly surprised by the elegance of the syntax. There are the obvious arguments about plain-text…",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"16007143","danielbankhead","This looks very promising. While I do not see this as a replacement for Markdown this has some potential for use cases where Markdown is less suitable, like messaging. The…",{"value":91,"source":80,"evidence":92},"Interesting reimagining of plain text with tags",[93],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"16007325","desireco42","I like sundown a lot and see how it is better then markdown. It is very bold and smart reimagining of plain text enriched by tags. It has a long road ahead, most likely will…",[98,109,120,128],{"value":99,"source":80,"evidence":100},"Name collides with the existing Sundown Markdown library",[101,105],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"16006087","Sir_Cmpwn","Very poor naming choice. Sundown is the name of a popular Markdown implementation: https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fvmg\u002Fsundown Strongly suggest renaming your project as early as possible.",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"16006635","ktamura","As a product marketer, I have to say that the name is very unfortunate. 1. Sundown is the name of a Markdown library written in C: https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fvmg\u002Fsundown. 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Here are some clickables of SunSed: - https:\u002F\u002Fwww.sunsed.com\u002F - https:\u002F\u002Fwww.sunsed.com\u002Fpricing - https:\u002F\u002Fwww.sunsed.com\u002Ftags\u002Fs A list…",[149],{"value":150,"source":80,"evidence":151},"Is the source open?",[152],{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},[154,158,165,172],{"value":155,"source":80,"evidence":156},"Markdown",[157],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},{"value":159,"source":80,"evidence":160},"HAML",[161],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"16006203","cyberferret","Started reading with interest, but then everything started to look really similar to HAML [0] after a bit. 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