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The investors can make a profit purely with their own actions, and remove any ETH…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},"16226276","terhechte","https:\u002F\u002Fetherscan.io\u002Faddress\u002F0xe3f64dc522a66405c51d96aae234217a03502bb4#readContract There's $9,047.32 worth of ETH in the contract already. Price seems to be 0.08 ETH",[63,70],{"value":64,"source":52,"evidence":65},"Ethereum smart contract",[66],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"16226340","lpage","This has seen ~$10,600USD worth of love so far [1]. The contract source is comedy gold [2]. [1]…",{"value":71,"source":52,"evidence":72},"Solidity",[73],{"id":74,"by":68,"text":75},"16233892","Etherscan has an option for linking the source [1], in which case they compile it and verify the result against the bytecode that's publicly available. Edit: the source itself is…","unknown","launched",{"praise":79,"objections":107,"requests":150,"questions":151,"alternatives":166},[80,96],{"value":81,"source":52,"evidence":82},"Funny joke, with praise for the whitepaper, logo and contract source",[83,87,91,95],{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"16225792","toddkazakov","The white paper is great",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"16227209","agitator","The white paper made my day. haha",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"16226321","aakilfernandes","That logo is fantastic",{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"value":97,"source":52,"evidence":98},"Satirical lines in the site copy are enjoyable",[99,103],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"16225685","iaw","> We suggest shilling this coin heavily to your family and friends like a fucking sociopath. That line made my day.",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"16225604","geoffreyy","> Q: Is this site secure? > A: We use Equifax-grade security. haha",[108,123,134,143],{"value":109,"source":52,"evidence":110},"It is an illegal Ponzi or pyramid scheme even as a joke",[111,115,119],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"16226206","dragonwriter","> Is gambling using smart contracts illegal? In most US jurisdictions, gambling is generally prohibited, though there are generally some specific exceptions (often with licensing…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"16226196","everdev","I called the SEC last year and selling a coin claiming it'll go up in value without registering as a security is illegal, even if it's a joke. Even if you don't say it'll go up…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"16227171","hndamien","This is a pyramid scheme and not a Ponzi. I'm disappointed.",{"value":124,"source":52,"evidence":125},"Investors can lose money; contract may run out of ETH",[126,130,131],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"16225703","sushid","You can lose more than 75%. If there's no ETH in the wallet they can't pay you back out.",{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"id":132,"by":11,"text":133},"16225810","I made a spreadsheet to figure this out and the reason I dont mention that risk more is that is only at risk of happening after around 900 tokens are sold - until then the…",{"value":135,"source":52,"evidence":136},"Not a real Ponzi since the mechanics are disclosed; it is a pyramid scheme",[137,140],{"id":138,"by":113,"text":139},"16226228","A Ponzi scheme cannot be transparent; if it's transparent, it's probably a pyramid scheme. A Ponzi is something where the victims are duped into believing there is something else…",{"id":141,"by":113,"text":142},"16226346","> I'm sure there are legal implications of running a Ponzi scheme too. I'm positive that telling someone about the illegal thing you're doing does not absolve you of…",{"value":144,"source":52,"evidence":145},"Site uses http, not https",[146],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"16226075","master_ant","looks at url not https Figures.",[],[152,159],{"value":153,"source":52,"evidence":154},"Is the contract well coded?",[155],{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"16233733","guiomie","Is this a well coded contract? Also, how come is the source code available? I thought only bytcodes were pushed to the EVM ?",{"value":160,"source":52,"evidence":161},"How many tokens have been bought so far?",[162],{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"16226116","slimshady94","Can you see how many tokens have been bought till now?",[167,178,185,192],{"value":168,"source":52,"evidence":169},"ponzi.io",[170,174],{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"16225861","econner","Yea, ponzi.io was one. Screenshot from 2014: https:\u002F\u002Fweb.archive.org\u002Fweb\u002F20140208200431\u002Fhttp:\u002F\u002Fponzi.io\u002F",{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"16225892","cobookman","This was done with Ponzi.io a while back. Founder shut it down as they were afraid of breaking laws.",{"value":179,"source":52,"evidence":180},"Earlier Ethereum pyramid dapp",[181],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"16225611","Nummeros","Yup. For example here: https:\u002F\u002Fwww.reddit.com\u002Fr\u002Fethereum\u002Fcomments\u002F3g6ccj\u002Fthese_are_the_first_ever_verifiable_pyramid\u002F",{"value":186,"source":52,"evidence":187},"MMM Global",[188],{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"16227224","qwerty456127","Yes, a pyramid scheme, but Wikipedia still calls it a Ponzi scheme. I mean this one: https:\u002F\u002Fen.wikipedia.org\u002Fwiki\u002FMMM_Global I don't recommend it, I also know many people who…",{"value":193,"source":52,"evidence":194},"Eve Online in-game Ponzi schemes",[195],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"16226195","stcredzero","It's been happening on Eve Online since over a decade ago. 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