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We've been working hard on this product for the last 6 months and are excited to open it up. Try it out and we'd love feedback. Free to start. As…",{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},"16437773","Not a dumb question. We're lower-level - the biggest value Wistia brings is helping marketers be more effective with video. Mux Video is like the plumbing; we get the video from…",{"value":58,"source":49,"evidence":59},"Developers building video into their own applications",[60,61],{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},{"id":62,"by":11,"text":63},"16432199","Hey clintavo - your use-case is exactly what we built Mux Video for. 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Video Stored: $0.007 per minute per month…",{"value":74,"source":49,"evidence":75},"Video is too hard for developers to build on without a simple abstraction",[76],{"id":52,"by":11,"text":53},[78],{"value":79,"source":66,"evidence":80},"HLS streaming",[81,85],{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},"16433158","tcd","Having had experience in streaming to many thousands of users myself I think what you're doing here is certainly interesting - having taken a look at your service it seems likely…",{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"16433322","therealwardo","Matt Ward - engineer at Mux here. I'll address a few of your concerns. First off, I worked on building YouTube's video infrastructure for years and now I'm working on Mux's with…","unknown","launched","company",{"praise":93,"objections":113,"requests":141,"questions":164,"alternatives":189},[94,102],{"value":95,"source":66,"evidence":96},"Low pricing compared to alternatives",[97,98],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"16439450","eliblock","This looks like a great alternative to Wistia for online course sites\u002Fplatforms like Teachable. I believe many developer built and focused subscription video sites like…",{"value":103,"source":66,"evidence":104},"Good idea for developers needing simple video infrastructure",[105,109],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"16432306","ajsharp","Yes yes a thousand times yes.",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"16432674","billdybas","Really excited about what you're building! 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I guess, at the moment, there is no way to secure a video on mux?",{"value":125,"source":66,"evidence":126},"Only HLS support, which lacks desktop Chrome support",[127],{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},{"value":129,"source":66,"evidence":130},"Dependence on third-party CDNs could be risky",[131,134],{"id":132,"by":83,"text":133},"16433370","Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion - the team page tells me nothing about the challenges they're going to face, and how they're going to overcome them. 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