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What Graphite is trying to solve for is the convenience of access across multiple devices without losing the privacy of what you'd…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"16491205","Good question. The primary difference is that your file data is encrypted client-side before it ever reaches the storage provider of your choice. And that data can only be…",{"value":62,"source":63,"evidence":64},"Free for personal use","commenter",[65],{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"16490661","la_oveja",">Are there storage limits? >There are no storage limits for documents, spreadsheets, or messages. >How much does it cost? >Graphite for personal use is completely free. So,…",[70,74],{"value":71,"source":53,"evidence":72},"Blockstack",[73],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"value":75,"source":53,"evidence":76},"Azure Blob storage (default)",[77,81],{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"16496234","yydcool","100% decentralized? Where is my data actually being stored? This depends on your choices. 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