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As you can see, it's nothing complex,…",{"value":67,"source":47,"evidence":68},"sumy",[69],{"id":64,"by":10,"text":65},{"value":71,"source":47,"evidence":72},"regex",[73],{"id":64,"by":10,"text":65},{"value":75,"source":47,"evidence":76},"bs4",[77],{"id":64,"by":10,"text":65},{"value":79,"source":47,"evidence":80},"Chrome Extension framework",[81],{"id":64,"by":10,"text":65},"unknown","beta","team",{"praise":86,"objections":111,"requests":154,"questions":177,"alternatives":191},[87,103],{"value":88,"source":89,"evidence":90},"Interesting idea and useful concept","commenter",[91,95,99],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"16569986","got2surf","This looks really interesting! Two points: 1) A quick side-by-side of a sample Terms\u002FConditions versus Leaf's summarized version would be helpful. It would help me understand the…",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"16572645","tetchart","This is awesome! One thing: it would be really cool if clicking on one of the summary text boxes brought you to where the full details are approximately located on the page. That…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"16570679","superasn","Can it create a small faq based on the summary, e.g. q) What happens i upload a photo to this website? a) the website owns it and can use it anywhere q) what happens when i give…",{"value":104,"source":89,"evidence":105},"Sample output or side-by-side would help",[106,107],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"16570752","harryf","How about an example of the results it produces on your website? Might convince more people to give this time if you can show some output, given either a known T&Cs like Apple's…",[112,123,133,143],{"value":113,"source":89,"evidence":114},"Summaries may miss important clauses and mislead users",[115,119],{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"16570334","geuis","One concern that comes to mind if my company uses this: A user reads the auto generated summary but not the actual ToS, then does a thing that violates the ToS. The summary…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"16569946","jprissi","If this ever becomes the norm, we might see some attempt to obfuscate Terms and Conditions which might be really interesting to see. I'm also concerned by the fact this tool…",{"value":124,"source":89,"evidence":125},"Overstated AI\u002FML claims; it is mainly extractive NLP",[126,130],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"16569982","needcaffeine","It's a cool project, I just wish its capabilities weren't being misrepresented like this. It's currently just sumy, tokenization, and summarization. Like got2surf said, you'll…",{"id":131,"by":128,"text":132},"16569856","When you say machine learning...do you mean NLP text summarization?",{"value":134,"source":89,"evidence":135},"Tool did not work; spinner runs forever and output weak",[136,140],{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"16571382","eppsilon","I installed it and tried running it on your site, but it just showed the \"summarizing\" spinner forever.",{"id":141,"by":138,"text":142},"16571406","Also tried it on https:\u002F\u002Fwww.humblebundle.com\u002Fterms (happened to have a bundle page open) - the output wasn't great. 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