[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":569},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-16665957":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":36,"aspects":37,"strip":48,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":84,"maker_in_thread":194,"shape":205,"grid":209,"attempts":530,"same_week":531,"maker_shows":39,"maker_hidden":562,"reader_version":563,"card":564},"16665957","Naughty List","Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information","title","Show HN: Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information","https:\u002F\u002Fsecured.fyi\u002Fnaughtylist.html","secured.fyi","fredrikaurdal",1521888869,2018,197,124,189,2155,9,"notable","security_privacy","privacy rankings","web_app",[24,25,26,27,28],"account deletion","gdpr","data privacy","delete account","privacy ranking","mixed",-0.34,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":34,"critical":35},4,23,2,25,54,{"design":38,"docs":41,"execution":43,"privacy":45,"idea":46},{"positive":39,"critical":40},1,3,{"positive":42,"critical":39},0,{"positive":42,"critical":44},7,{"positive":42,"critical":18},{"positive":34,"critical":47},5,[47,39,42,39,39,40,39,47,42,39,39,42,39,40,39,39,40,39,42,39,40,40,47,40,39,39,40,39,39,42,40,40,39,40,39,39,39,40,40,40],null,{"problem":51,"audience":49,"pricing":49,"motivation":58,"time_to_build":49,"stack":62,"openness":82,"stage":83,"team_size":82},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Many services refuse to delete user accounts or personal data.","maker",[55],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"16665963","Occasionally I go through my password manager to do a cleanup of accounts I no longer use. For the simple reason that if any one of those services get hacked, I don't want to…",{"value":59,"source":53,"evidence":60},"Services refused to delete the maker's info when they tried to clean up old accounts.",[61],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},[63,69,76],{"value":64,"source":53,"evidence":65},"jQuery",[66],{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},"16667933","The table pulls data from a Google Sheet. When the spreadsheet is updated, the table is populated with data. You have to run the site's jquery, otherwise it's not going to work.",{"value":70,"source":53,"evidence":71},"Google Sheets as data source",[72,73],{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},{"id":74,"by":11,"text":75},"16679866","The site is literally based on a spreadsheet at the moment, which has some limitations. I'm working on re-designing my system, which will allow to more easily include sources.",{"value":77,"source":53,"evidence":78},"Matomo analytics",[79],{"id":80,"by":11,"text":81},"16679904","I'm planning on re-building the site, which I'm working on. The analytics software I'm using is a self hosted version of Matomo.","unknown","beta",{"praise":85,"objections":98,"requests":141,"questions":168,"alternatives":180},[86],{"value":87,"source":88,"evidence":89},"Good idea that is useful with GDPR coming","commenter",[90,94],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"16666882","marcc","I like this idea a lot. With GDPR on the horizon, this is a great resource to put together. I’m a little confused about the implementation right now. I don’t understand Rank and…",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"16688338","peternicky","I like this idea a lot, however, as many others said, you need to be transparent with the scores. I was more confused after reading your FAQ. Additionally, the column where you…",[99,108,119,130],{"value":100,"source":88,"evidence":101},"Scoring and rank meaning is unclear",[102,103,107],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"16666899","alphamonster","It would help to explain your scores a bit (is +10 worse than -10?)",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},{"value":109,"source":88,"evidence":110},"Page is hard to use and navigate",[111,115],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"16668344","et-al","The navigation is a bit confusing. I didn't know the landing page was the \"Naughty List\". And I was expecting each \"category\" to filter the existing list, not show a new list of…",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"16667163","rexpop","This page doesn't make sense: you say Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information at the top, and then immediately list, e.g. \"Outlook Mail: Delete Account? Yes\". This…",{"value":120,"source":88,"evidence":121},"Table fails to load without JavaScript",[122,126],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"16667715","sleavey","Something's up with the site, at least for me. The table content doesn't load - I see the different options (email, etc.) but no entries. Firefox console tells me: ---- Loading…",{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"16668548","f2n","The list does not appear without allowing 3rd party javascript (and presumably tracking) by Google :\u002F",{"value":131,"source":88,"evidence":132},"Reasons and sources for ratings are missing",[133,137],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"16667471","mic47","Please add reasons for each site why they have points they have and links that support those claims. For example, you said that Facebook deletes data partially. What does it mean?",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"16669262","qpiox","I don't understand why were some of the tech added to the list. The title says \"Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information Services with the highest scores have the worst…",[142,150,161],{"value":143,"source":88,"evidence":144},"Add reasons and links for each rating",[145,146],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"16669248","sandstrom","Nice! Some thoughts: - I’d rank them on a combination of size and score. - perhaps a link to relevant delete \u002F info page - automatic vs manual (ie do you need to ask support) -…",{"value":151,"source":88,"evidence":152},"Add more services such as Gmail and Mailgun",[153,157],{"id":154,"by":155,"text":156},"16667987","Jerry2","Where's Gmail?",{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"16667299","a_imho","mailgun",{"value":162,"source":88,"evidence":163},"Sort list by naughtiest first",[164],{"id":165,"by":166,"text":167},"16667028","evolve2k","The very first thing that shows is the companies that are the least naughty. This is a naughty list is it not? 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