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Slack's desktop app, which is based on Electron, is often criticized for its memory and CPU…",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"16793501","rplnt","It's insane that 100MB of ram for a \"chat\" client is seen as a good result. How did we get there? Is it really that much cheaper to develop desktop apps as slow and bloated web…",{"id":62,"by":63,"text":64},"16793350","maxehmookau","Awesome! ...also kinda depressing that it's neccessary. Hey Slack! How about an app for your service that doesn't grind my macbook pro to a halt?",[66,73,77],{"value":67,"source":51,"evidence":68},"C++",[69],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"16793328","kodablah","First time I'm seeing Yue [0]. Seems like C++ w\u002F some Lua and JS bindings. Are there C bindings available so it can be used in other ecosystems without writing C++ glue? 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Some elements randomly have 20px spaces between them, some have 28px, some have 32px.…",{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"16793765","seba_dos1","This! It's very far from being 1:1 clone of Slack UI, it's closer to a child's drawing of Slack UI. A mockup. See, this is what I meant, some people just don't see it!",{"value":119,"source":51,"evidence":120},"Not native code, so the benefit over the web client is unclear",[121,125],{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"16793232","PrimeDirective","How is this better than the official web client and why would I use it? It's not really \"native\", either.",{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"16793604","staticelf","I kind of understand the need, but I would be more prone to actually use it if it was actually fully native. Now, I can simply just wait for Slack to update their client. 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