[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":575},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-18608454":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":9,"maker":10,"posted_at":11,"year":12,"points":13,"comments":14,"rank_in_year":15,"shown_in_year":16,"top":17,"tier":18,"category":19,"subcategory":20,"format":21,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":33,"aspects":34,"strip":45,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":84,"maker_in_thread":222,"shape":232,"grid":237,"attempts":536,"same_week":537,"maker_shows":46,"maker_hidden":566,"reader_version":567,"card":568},"18608454","Next Browser","Next Browser native on Linux","title","Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux",null,"jmercouris",1544020270,2018,198,114,184,2155,9,"notable","dev_tools","web browser","desktop_app",[23,24,25,26],"lisp browser","keyboard browser","scriptable browser","webkitgtk","mixed",-0.181,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":31},13,20,1,54,{"idea":35,"privacy":37,"performance":40,"docs":41,"execution":42,"design":44},{"positive":36,"critical":17},8,{"positive":38,"critical":39},0,2,{"positive":38,"critical":32},{"positive":38,"critical":32},{"positive":38,"critical":43},6,{"positive":32,"critical":32},[38,46,47,38,38,32,46,32,32,47,47,47,46,32,32,47,46,32,47,32,32,47,47,47,47,46,32,46,32,32,32,32,38,38,38,46,46,38,32,32],3,5,"Thanks to a new design Next is now available for Linux!:\nhttps:\u002F\u002Fnext.atlas.engineer\u002Farticle\u002Ftechnical-design.org\n\nWhat is Next? Next is a Lisp based productivity focused browser. You can read more about that here: https:\u002F\u002Fnext.atlas.engineer\u002Farticle\u002Fthe-next-thesis.org\n\nYou can download a binary from here: https:\u002F\u002Fnext.atlas.engineer\u002Fdownload\n\nYou can view our GitHub here:\nhttps:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fatlas-engineer\u002Fnext\n\nThanks for your time, I'm very interested in the HN Community feedback, thanks!",{"problem":50,"audience":9,"pricing":9,"motivation":60,"time_to_build":9,"stack":65,"openness":81,"stage":82,"team_size":83},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Browser that is fully programmable and customizable, mostly from Lisp.","maker",[54,57],{"id":55,"by":10,"text":56},"18608780","Well, the Lisp part is for the reprogrammability of it all, the inspectability. You can on-the-fly edit a compiled version of Next, which is pretty cool I think!",{"id":58,"by":10,"text":59},"18609162","Well, we are not competitors, we target different markets. Next is infinitely extensible, Qutebrowser is not. Also Qutebrowser is married to QT, Next is not. If we wanted to, we…",{"value":61,"source":52,"evidence":62},"Reprogrammability and inspectability, plus mouseless productivity use.",[63,64],{"id":55,"by":10,"text":56},{"id":58,"by":10,"text":59},[66,74],{"value":67,"source":52,"evidence":68},"Common Lisp",[69,73],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"18608734","dmortin","Demo videos: https:\u002F\u002Fnext.atlas.engineer\u002F#features I don't get the choice of Lisp. I don't mind it, I use Emacs, but a more popular language can have more complete platform…",{"id":55,"by":10,"text":56},{"value":75,"source":52,"evidence":76},"WebKitGTK",[77,78],{"id":58,"by":10,"text":59},{"id":79,"by":10,"text":80},"18613710","Hi, thank you for your interest! I've never used VIMB, but I guess it is subject to the webkit port, since on Linux you more or less only have Webkit2gtk+ your experience should…","open_source","beta","team",{"praise":85,"objections":113,"requests":147,"questions":182,"alternatives":198},[86,102],{"value":87,"source":88,"evidence":89},"Interesting idea for Lisp-scriptable, keyboard-oriented browsing","commenter",[90,94,98],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"18609104","Majestic121","It seems pretty interesting, especially the mouseless part. I tried [Vimperator](http:\u002F\u002Fvimperator.org\u002F) on Firefox for a while, but it seems the web was really hard to use…",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"18609830","nine_k","What if a browser was built like Emacs is built? With low-level rendering core exposing almost everything to scripting in Lisp, and the entire UX written in Lisp, fully…",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"18610707","agumonkey","Good job on the website. Clear and simple. I might give it a go, I wanted lean and keyboard oriented (never got to setup firefox extensions properly for that). Bravo",{"value":103,"source":88,"evidence":104},"Excitement about Linux availability",[105,109],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"18609142","zeveb","I’m really excited to see this! I’ve got it compiling right now. Can’t wait to give it a spin.",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"18609476","rauhl","Congratulations! It won’t be ready for primetime until there’s a good adblocker — but now that it runs on Linux, folks like me can work on an adblocker for it. I’m really excited…",[114,129,136],{"value":115,"source":88,"evidence":116},"No ad blocker yet",[117,121,125],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"18609189","pmontra","No adblock is a show stopper for me, but they have a campaign on Indie Go Go with adblocking as one of the goals https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fatlas-engineer\u002Fnext\u002Fissues\u002F32…",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"18611461","purerandomness","Very nice, we need more of that. There's also qutebrowser [1], but none of these are usable without a proper adblocker implementation. [1] https:\u002F\u002Fqutebrowser.org",{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"18615378","jancsika","Dear lisp fanatics, Please write an ad blocker in lisp for this thing. Sincerely Yours, Chance",{"value":130,"source":88,"evidence":131},"Security concerns from running WebKit without Chrome-style sandboxing",[132],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"18614519","insertcredit","I saw your post at lisp.reddit.com today and there was a redditor there that brought forth webkit security concerns that IMV you did not properly address. Thread is here…",{"value":137,"source":88,"evidence":138},"Hard to install or run; binaries fail to execute",[139,143],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"18613598","fiatjaf","Super cool that you use this Guix thing and all that (although Nix is better, who cares), but it is impossible to run this thing. I've followed the steps and still my binary…",{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"18609572","mosselman","Won't start on macOS 10.14.1",[148,155,165,172],{"value":149,"source":88,"evidence":150},"Ad blocker support",[151,152],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},{"id":153,"by":10,"text":154},"18609222","This is correct! it is also next on our to-do list! https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fatlas-engineer\u002Fnext\u002Ftree\u002Fmaster\u002Fdocuments#120",{"value":156,"source":88,"evidence":157},"Vim or modal keybindings",[158,162],{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"18612088","charlesdaniels","Looks like a great idea. However as someone who spends all day in vim, I wish it had an option for vim bindings or at least some kind of modal interface.",{"id":163,"by":10,"text":164},"18609176","this is true, but one of the main co-authors is a VI\u002FEVIL user, so we are working on VI keybindings for the next release. Still trying to work out how to best integrate them into…",{"value":166,"source":88,"evidence":167},"WebExtensions support",[168],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"18615790","danShumway","Do you plan to support WebExtensions[0] once they're standardized? It seems like every time a new browser comes out, the immediate question is, \"what does the extension ecosystem…",{"value":173,"source":88,"evidence":174},"Windows and macOS ports",[175,179],{"id":176,"by":177,"text":178},"18610015","timwaagh","give us microsoft users a chance too. i'd like to try it, but im not going to waste precious free time to do so.",{"id":180,"by":10,"text":181},"18610559","please register to vote (registration is on download page)! https:\u002F\u002Fnext.atlas.engineer\u002Fdownload if there is enough interest for a Windows port, we may very well make one!",[183,194],{"value":184,"source":88,"evidence":185},"How does it compare to Vimb and Qutebrowser on performance and crashes?",[186,190],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"18612402","gnull","There is also Vimb [1], which is another keyboard-focused web browser. It also runs on GTK+ and WebKit2. How does Next compare to it? 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