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Here's how they may be helpful to you: 1) Serverless Framework The Serverless Framework enables you to provision serverless applications in a…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},"19610837","We've been building serverless application dev tools for ~4 years now. In the process, we've seen incredible efforts to emulate the cloud locally. The result is usually the same:…",{"value":61,"source":62,"evidence":63},"Developers building serverless applications on AWS","inferred",[64,65],{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},"19606906","In a websockets implementation w\u002F AWS Lambdas and AWS API Gateway maintaining connection state, your AWS Lambdas are invoked whenever someone 1) connects 2) disconnects 3) sends…",{"value":69,"source":52,"evidence":70},"AWS usage-based pricing, linked in README",[71],{"id":72,"by":11,"text":73},"19607856","Good question. As always, it depends on the use-case. 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