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Today is a good day, the achievement of months of works (but also the start of a great adventure ). I'm very excited to announce Bloom: A free and Open…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"20112918","YeGoblynQueenne",">> The problem is that today these data, produced by everyone, become the property of big companies (the giants of tech), and are used among other things to destabilize our…",{"value":69,"source":58,"evidence":70},"Drive is paid after 30GB free storage",[71],{"id":72,"by":73,"text":74},"20109511","Animats","\"Bloom Drive\" is a paid service. 30GB free, then it starts to cost. \"Secured by SSL\", which probably means the data is not encrypted against access by them. The Bloom Drive site…",{"value":76,"source":58,"evidence":77},"Empowering the world with open technologies",[78],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},[80,84,88],{"value":81,"source":58,"evidence":82},"Rust",[83],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"value":85,"source":58,"evidence":86},"Go (earlier rewrite)",[87],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"value":89,"source":58,"evidence":90},"JavaScript (earlier version)",[91],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"open_source","beta","unknown",{"praise":96,"objections":97,"requests":144,"questions":178,"alternatives":199},[],[98,117,129],{"value":99,"source":58,"evidence":100},"Sign-up and tagline do not clearly show what it does; search is missing despite Google comparison",[101,105,109,113],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"20106073","dougk16","Wow, ambitious! Your sheer nerve is enough to click on the link and check it out. :) As a potential early adopter that has seen countless would-be world-changing technology…",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"20110690","PatrolX","Clicked, didn't see a search engine, closed the tab.",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"20111359","countryqt30","Google? I tried to find a \"search bar\" for 10 sec, and then left the site frustrated, sure to never come back.",{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"20109752","austhrow743","I like what you're trying to do and definitely something id use when it's more mature. Not a comment on the quality or feature set, i just like to know tech isn't going to stop…",{"value":118,"source":58,"evidence":119},"Core team is small and funding plan is unclear",[120,124,128],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"20111050","solipsism","How are you going to do all these amazing things? When I go to bloom.sh and click About, I learn that the core team is one product designer and one graphic designer. If you're…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"20108075","Nuzzerino","Do you have a comprehensive and viable plan to pay for costs? If it involves getting enough donations, does your plan include a viable way to optimize donations? Simply including…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},{"value":130,"source":58,"evidence":131},"Hosted cloud on AWS conflicts with self-hosting and privacy goals",[132,136,140],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"20109534","RIMR","So, the only way I would EVER use something like this is if I controlled it. The only way other people are going to adopt this is if it's easy to install in your own environment.…",{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"20109841","t0astbread","This is interesting and (like everyone else) I have a few questions: - Will this be based on open, industry standard protocols? - It looks like there are multiple applications…",{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"20113975","neop1x","I like your enthusiasm but I am afraid you are overambitious. For me, it sounds a bit like GSuite alrernative hosted on Google Cloud. It doesn't make sense to me. What is the…",[145,149,160,167],{"value":146,"source":58,"evidence":147},"Self-hosted install and packaged binaries",[148],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"value":150,"source":58,"evidence":151},"Email client or IMAP support",[152,156],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"20114643","pcdoodle","Wow, this is super badass! A few people mentioned email, Instead of making a hosted email system, how about a client for IMAP? PS I couldn't get create contact to pop up a dialog…",{"id":157,"by":158,"text":159},"20112287","sadsam","It's just me? Why no plan for email at all? How use contacts and Drive without email integration? Or am I missing something?",{"value":161,"source":58,"evidence":162},"Import from Google data",[163],{"id":164,"by":165,"text":166},"20110005","nsilvestri","In order to compete, I think it's important that there is some way to import existing data from competitors (read: Google). I would like to switch to try it out, but I don't want…",{"value":168,"source":58,"evidence":169},"Screenshots and clearer docs",[170,174],{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"20114381","cryptozeus","Please add some screen shots of product. Idk about others but this would be a great way to get people to try the service.",{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"20108473","lallysingh","Even the TL;DR didn't explain what I was looking at. Please fix before you've burned your one chance at a first impression.",[179,188,192],{"value":180,"source":58,"evidence":181},"How will the project be sustained and stay free at scale",[182,183,187],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"20108592","unixhero","How will you remain free when your user base increases to , let's use a silly term, \"web scale\"?",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},{"value":189,"source":58,"evidence":190},"Will it use open protocols and can it be self-hosted without AWS",[191],{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},{"value":193,"source":58,"evidence":194},"How it differs from Nextcloud, ownCloud and Seafile",[195],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"20108893","the_common_man","Gave it a quick try and looks like very similar to cozy before they pivoted. I guess this is also like nextcloud\u002Fowncloud\u002Fseafile. Can you explain how your product will be…",[200,208,212,219],{"value":201,"source":58,"evidence":202},"Google Workspace \u002F G Suite",[203,207],{"id":204,"by":205,"text":206},"20108573","spurgu","Wouldn't \"G Suite\" be more descriptive than \"Google\"? Putting it in quotes kind of makes you think you're not referring to the search engine, but still... However that may be I…",{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},{"value":209,"source":58,"evidence":210},"Nextcloud, ownCloud, Seafile",[211],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},{"value":213,"source":58,"evidence":214},"Mozilla",[215],{"id":216,"by":217,"text":218},"20108575","mkolodny","I think of Mozilla as a free and open source Google.",{"value":220,"source":58,"evidence":221},"F-Droid",[222],{"id":223,"by":224,"text":225},"20111852","lawry","You might also want to publish your app on f-droid.org, since it's the alternative to the Google Play Store and it's focussed around really free apps without tracking 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