[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":594},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-21343989":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":49,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":78,"maker_in_thread":203,"shape":215,"grid":219,"attempts":555,"same_week":556,"maker_shows":50,"maker_hidden":586,"reader_version":587,"card":588},"21343989","Passbox","Give access to your data only after you're dead","title","Show HN: Passbox – Give access to your data only after you're dead","https:\u002F\u002Fpassbox.co","passbox.co","mrdazm",1571920372,2019,110,134,436,2195,20,"notable","security_privacy","digital legacy and password sharing","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"digital legacy","dead man's switch","password sharing","digital inheritance","mixed",-0.413,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},4,31,2,33,70,{"idea":37,"execution":40,"privacy":43,"pricing":45,"design":47,"docs":48},{"positive":38,"critical":39},3,11,{"positive":41,"critical":42},0,5,{"positive":41,"critical":44},7,{"positive":41,"critical":46},8,{"positive":41,"critical":41},{"positive":41,"critical":33},[50,41,38,31,38,38,50,38,50,38,42,50,50,38,50,50,50,50,38,38,50,38,33,50,50,50,38,50,38,33,50,50,50,50,50,50,38,31,50,50],1,null,{"problem":53,"audience":51,"pricing":60,"motivation":72,"time_to_build":51,"stack":76,"openness":77,"stage":77,"team_size":77},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Getting access to a person's accounts, devices and data after they die.","maker",[57],{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},"21344037","Hi all, original poster here. I created Passbox after buying my first motorcycle and thinking that if anything happened to me on it I'd like for my devices\u002Faccounts\u002Fphotos and…",{"value":61,"source":62,"evidence":63},"Monthly subscription of about $5.99 per month, discussed as a paid service.","commenter",[64,68],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"21347602","madamelic","Get rid of $5.99 \u002F mo, charge a flat $99 lifetime. Monthly doesn't make sense at all for this kind of service. I have no plan on dying anytime soon.",{"id":69,"by":70,"text":71},"21346505","bobbonew","I’m surprised there wasn’t a lifetime plan for $5.99. The cost to store that amount of minimal data is moot. I would never pay monthly for something like this - but would likely…",{"value":73,"source":55,"evidence":74},"Maker bought a motorcycle and wanted devices and accounts not walled off if something happened.",[75],{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},[],"unknown",{"praise":79,"objections":91,"requests":134,"questions":151,"alternatives":169},[80],{"value":81,"source":62,"evidence":82},"Idea for digital legacy is appreciated and useful.",[83,87],{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"21344497","MrLeap","Interesting! This was kind of my software engineering II project back in college a decade ago. I wrote it in PHP. You configured all sorts of different actions that would occur…",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"21345188","option_greek","I thought about doing this several times but backed off because of dark connotations with death :)",[92,107,119,126],{"value":93,"source":62,"evidence":94},"Users must trust a third party with sensitive data.",[95,99,103],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"21344864","bronco21016","I’ve given a lot of thought to this problem lately after becoming a parent. However, I just can’t picture trusting this to a third party. Ideally I’d store my master password to…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"21346592","beshrkayali","Asking users to trust a random web service with their most sensitive data almost feels like a prank.",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"21349259","miguelmota","Two concerns: 1. I don't think I can trust a new 3rd party with private data 2. I don't think this service will live long enough to be around for another 50+ years This service…",{"value":108,"source":62,"evidence":109},"Pricing is too high for the service.",[110,114,115],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"21345071","chadash","A few comments: - I think the pricing structure is way too high. $60\u002Fyear is quite a bit for what you are offering. At that price, I would rather rent a safety deposit box with a…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"21344644","Dolores12","Wouldn't it be nice to leave 60$\u002Fyear to those you really care instead?",{"value":120,"source":62,"evidence":121},"Email notifications could be missed, enabling misuse.",[122],{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"21359422","kangnkodos","My trusted friend decides to try to access all my online accounts, and requests access to my Passbox. Passbox sends me an email informing me of the request. Oops. The email from…",{"value":127,"source":62,"evidence":128},"Company longevity over decades is doubtful.",[129,130],{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"21347608","GaryNumanVevo","What if Passbox dies before I do?",[135,140,144],{"value":136,"source":62,"evidence":137},"Offer a lifetime one-time payment option.",[138,139],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},{"id":69,"by":70,"text":71},{"value":141,"source":62,"evidence":142},"Sync updates automatically rather than manual re-entry.",[143],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},{"value":145,"source":62,"evidence":146},"Clearer comparison of free and paid features.",[147],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"21346926","ken","You should line up the free and paid features, perhaps in a table. I can't glance at a list of 8 items and a list of 10 items and distinguish what changed between them, so I'm…",[152,158],{"value":153,"source":62,"evidence":154},"Is data encrypted at rest and who holds the key?",[155],{"id":156,"by":149,"text":157},"21347055","The \"How does Passbox work?\" isn't clear to me. Is it encrypted at rest? Who has the password (or passwords), and is it just one secret key to unlock everything? Do my Trusted…",{"value":159,"source":62,"evidence":160},"What happens to access if the payment card stops working after death?",[161,165],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"21349750","offmycloud","If a person dies and their payment card stops working, does the account get suspended for non-payment?",{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"21344734","exhilaration","But what happens when your credit cards are cancelled after you die? That's a Catch-22 right there.",[170,178,185,196],{"value":171,"source":62,"evidence":172},"LastPass Emergency Access",[173,174],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"21344977","troymc","This service (Passbox) seems to be equivalent to LastPass's \"Emergency Access\" feature. See:…",{"value":179,"source":62,"evidence":180},"Shamir's Secret Sharing",[181],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"21345210","teuobk","Free alternative: use one of several tools that implement Shamir's Secret Sharing Scheme to split your master password into chunks. You can create a bunch of chunks and require…",{"value":186,"source":62,"evidence":187},"Safety deposit box",[188,192],{"id":189,"by":190,"text":191},"21345107","kemiller2002","Serious question. Why wouldn't I just use a safety deposit box? Outside of the convenience of being electronic what benefit does this add over a physical storage space? The…",{"id":193,"by":194,"text":195},"21346425","achikin","Why not print all that data out and give it to someone you trust or keep it in a deposit box which can be legally passed to your family?",{"value":197,"source":62,"evidence":198},"key2lyf.com",[199],{"id":200,"by":201,"text":202},"21345018","wheelerwj","There's another on, key2lyf.com which is really similar. I love these kind of ideas.",{"comments":204,"answered":39,"key":205},44,[206,209,212],{"id":207,"text":208},"21349436","That's awesome",{"id":210,"text":211},"21349433","Thanks for checking it out! Apologies for not striking the right balance of brevity while also being informative for you. I'm trying to improve there. All the sensitive data is…",{"id":213,"text":214},"21351678","I have - before this post even. It's been mentioned a few times in this post too. It's something to think about but not a current priority. Thanks for the suggestion! 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