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You can scrub your own data. You can run everything through a VPN where at least you have some sense of privacy, or just use Tor. I get that…",{"value":58,"source":52,"evidence":59},"Free 30-minute sessions; paid version mentioned",[60,63],{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"21374534","Hey Dude! Have not heard of any.run, I appreciate you pointing that out to me! If you need longer sessions, I'm happy to talk about possibilities with you, even though it sounds…",{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"21379231","That sounds very annoying! I'll have a fix for that in future. I've found a work around is to clear the input field, click outside it, click back inside the empty field, and…",{"value":67,"source":52,"evidence":68},"Wanted isolated browsing and found no easy self-hosted way to do it",[69],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"21374574","I appreciate this argument. I had not thought much about self-hosting with a couple of shell scripts. 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But it's been on an anonymously leased…",{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"21374753","peterkelly","How does performing all my browsing on someone else's computer whom I don't know make me more secure?",{"value":97,"source":79,"evidence":98},"Google CAPTCHAs block usage",[99,103],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"21375379","AbuAssar","I couldn't pass google captcha, and all urls open a google search.",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"21376023","luastoned","Head over to Google, be greeted with ~10 captchas before being able to do anything.. yikes.",{"value":108,"source":79,"evidence":109},"Isolation does not address downloads or email attachments",[110],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"21375600","tallanvor","I don't get the use-case for this. 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Grade capped to B.",[133],{"value":134,"source":79,"evidence":135},"How does the remote browser isolation work",[136],{"id":119,"by":90,"text":120},[138,145,152],{"value":139,"source":79,"evidence":140},"Browsh",[141],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"21375408","tombh","There's also Browsh's demo services for purely text-based browsing: https:\u002F\u002Fhtml.brow.sh\u002Fhttps:\u002F\u002Fnews.ycombinator.com\u002Fitem?id=21373756 `ssh brow.sh -t…",{"value":146,"source":79,"evidence":147},"any.run",[148],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"21374319","badrabbit","Dude! I don't care about cookie scrubbing but great idea. Heard of any.run? I use that a lot but their sessions are a minute long. 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