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Store items don't have any effect.",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"21505157","shawabawa3","self-starter only worked once for me. seems like observation training has the same effect but much cheaper?",{"id":143,"by":136,"text":144},"21505734","Well, they didn't seem to have an effect, and it says on the help page https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002FsecretGeek\u002FdevShop#walkthrough that they're not implemented.",{"value":146,"source":82,"evidence":147},"Prices rise for every item, making progression slow",[148,152],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"21507507","glaberficken","Idea is good, here are a few details that really killed the experience for me (early game at least): - It is not explicit at which level of each \"skill\" each character is. i.e.…",{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"21505655","diegorbaquero","Amazing, really loving this! One thing I’d change is that prices keep increasing, a chair should remain the same, keyboard too. No need to have “inflation” on everything. 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