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Here is one from me so you can compare. I just played this with my daughter who is 4 year old. She have found the first…",{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"21899161","volfied","Just played it with my 3 year old, and he had a real hard time with the \"how many cats are ducks\" kind of question... Cats can't be ducks after all! But he really enjoyed it…",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"21886759","hluska","My three year old says the cats are cutie pies. That’s very high praise...:) Nice work!",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"21895672","LeonB","Thank you for this. My daughter really enjoyed it!",{"value":103,"source":84,"evidence":104},"Good concept and clean, simple UI",[105,109],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"21896971","thecolorblue","This is great. I love the concept. There is just enough UI to play. The 'cat-ducks' makes it fun. If I could add something, I would make getting an answer right a little more…",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"21887605","jasonsamoa","This is amazing. Would love to see more simplified foundational education games such as this geared towards any audience and from all domains.",[114,129,139,146],{"value":115,"source":84,"evidence":116},"Screen time for kids aged 2 to 4 is inappropriate",[117,121,125],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"21885820","turtlebits","Controversial opinion, but I don't think kids ages 2 to 4 should be having screen time, let alone an activity that is better presented with real objects.",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"21885751","paggle","Kids of 2 to 4 shouldn’t be using screens.",{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"21885636","avip","Nice website. I like it. Please don't use it with your kids (of 2 to 4!!). There are more than enough actual objects scuttered in your house.",{"value":130,"source":84,"evidence":131},"Questions with no blue cats on screen have ambiguous answers",[132,136],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"21885815","stakhanov","So, I am older than 4 and have a PhD in a logic-related field. BUT. 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How can i turn it into an app for ipad use",{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"21888399","freediver","Great job, played all levels with my 4 year old and enjoyed. This can easily be an ipad app. Also my browser is lacking a tip button as this would have been a $5 tip easily.",{"value":181,"source":84,"evidence":182},"Show digits in order 0 to 9",[183],{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},[185,192],{"value":186,"source":84,"evidence":187},"How to handle ambiguous zero-count questions",[188,189],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"id":190,"by":134,"text":191},"21886414","...doesn't help either. The problem is that when you ask \"How many blue cats are bouncing?\" you are stating that blue cats are in existence. 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Will definitely try it with my son. The first part is about 'counting', or maybe recognising a count without counting (I didn't count the cats 1-2-3, because I…",{"value":222,"source":84,"evidence":223},"Braincup logic game",[224],{"id":225,"by":226,"text":227},"21890639","skinnyasianboi","That's very cool! I like that the whole project is packed into one html file and that you made it together with your daughter. 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