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I kept getting caught up cognitively on the fact that the thumb corresponded to the 5th box in all of the chord diagrams. I feel like…",{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"2243304","wazoox","I'm a pianist; it was easy as cake, actually would be even easier with finger numbers, or represented as notes :)",[68,79,94,101],{"value":69,"source":57,"evidence":70},"Chord assignments are not optimised; common letters like E and T are hard to type",[71,75],{"id":72,"by":73,"text":74},"2243069","pkamb","It's funny how it's not optimized at all. \"E\" and \"T\" are both incredibly hard to type; this would give you RSI problems in no time.",{"id":76,"by":77,"text":78},"2243793","biot","Interesting idea, but it's rather odd that the keystroke for P is pressing \u003CSPACE>, but the keystroke for \u003CSPACE> is a four character combination when \u003CSPACE> should be its own…",{"value":80,"source":57,"evidence":81},"Some chords fail due to keyboard ghosting or timing window",[82,86,90],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"2243153","makmanalp","I can't type G for the life of me. Maybe it has to do with the number of simultaneous keypresses on my keyboard?",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"2243455","agscala","It's a problem with keyboard ghosting. That's the problem with chording keys like this, once you're hitting >= 3 keys, you'll find some just won't work.",{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"2243300","yurylifshits","After 5 minutes: I can not get G either!!! Paul, can you change time intervals to to catch less accurate chors?",{"value":95,"source":57,"evidence":96},"Left-hand chords are hard, especially with a weak pinky",[97],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"2243140","mbreese","I found it very hard to do this with my left hand. Especially since the first bit is so widely used and my pinky on that side is pretty weak. I guess you can tell that I'm not an…",{"value":102,"source":57,"evidence":103},"Diagram lacks visual differentiation of the thumb key",[104,105],{"id":60,"by":61,"text":62},{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"2244308","rogercosseboom","^^this I also had the same issue, oddly enough it got worse as i got more accustomed to the program. I think mainly because I was visually counting the boxes from the right to…",[110,120,124,129],{"value":111,"source":46,"evidence":112},"Dvorak-style or frequency-based chord mapping",[113,116,119],{"id":114,"by":11,"text":115},"2243130","Yeah, exactly. He just enumerated the binary representation. A=1, B=2, C=3... Maybe I should build a Dvorak-ish version of this...",{"id":117,"by":11,"text":118},"2243394","Yeah, totally agree. The key mappings need some work. I just wanted to emulate his original one. I'll do a Dvorak one, might be easier.",{"id":76,"by":77,"text":78},{"value":121,"source":57,"evidence":122},"Configurable chord timing window",[123],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},{"value":125,"source":57,"evidence":126},"Finger numbers or note labels on diagrams",[127,128],{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},{"value":130,"source":57,"evidence":131},"Retry on wrong chords and teach in small batches",[132],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"2242930","gnosis","Cute. But I'd need a lot more than this for programming, which uses many special symbols. 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Since he had well more than 2^5 bits using both hands[1], he…",{"value":160,"source":57,"evidence":161},"MicroWriter \u002F CyKey",[162,166],{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"2243565","dmcg","I spent a happy year with a MicroWriter chorded keyboard in the early 90s. 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