[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":634},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-22492343":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":29,"sentiment":30,"stance_mix":31,"scored_comments":36,"aspects":37,"strip":46,"post_text":47,"what":48,"said":86,"maker_in_thread":209,"shape":217,"grid":221,"attempts":595,"same_week":596,"maker_shows":34,"maker_hidden":626,"reader_version":627,"card":628},"22492343","HiddenVM","Use any desktop OS without leaving a trace","title","Show HN: HiddenVM – Use any desktop OS without leaving a trace","https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Faforensics\u002FHiddenVM","github.com","aforensics",1583402979,2020,429,141,71,3028,3,"legend","security_privacy","anti-forensics virtual machine","other",[24,25,26,27,28],"anti-forensics","tails","veracrypt","deniable encryption","privacy","mixed",-0.368,{"positive":32,"neutral":33,"mixed":34,"critical":35},2,22,1,21,46,{"idea":38,"privacy":40,"design":43,"docs":44,"execution":45},{"positive":34,"critical":39},5,{"positive":41,"critical":42},0,10,{"positive":41,"critical":32},{"positive":41,"critical":34},{"positive":41,"critical":18},[39,41,41,41,34,18,34,34,41,41,18,18,34,39,34,34,34,34,18,34,34,41,18,34,32,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,41,34,34,18],null,{"problem":49,"audience":56,"pricing":47,"motivation":60,"time_to_build":47,"stack":64,"openness":83,"stage":84,"team_size":85},{"value":50,"source":51,"evidence":52},"Using a desktop OS without leaving digital traces on the host drive","maker",[53],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},"22492344","Hello HN, We're finally sharing our github with the world. This post is the first announcement of our project apart from our thus-far non-populated subreddit. No one's discovered…",{"value":57,"source":51,"evidence":58},"Activists, journalists, travellers crossing borders, and privacy-conscious users",[59],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"value":61,"source":51,"evidence":62},"Give anti-forensic use of any desktop OS, not just Tails",[63],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},[65,76],{"value":66,"source":67,"evidence":68},"Tails","inferred",[69,73],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"22492631","lovetocode","So does Tails run as the root OS but displays a separate OS in a VM? For example, does it look like your booting into Windows when really it’s just a VM inside Linux? If so, does…",{"id":74,"by":11,"text":75},"22492727","Yes and yes. No, the VM is not read-only. (But you can run a VM as read-only.)",{"value":77,"source":51,"evidence":78},"VeraCrypt",[79,80],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"id":81,"by":11,"text":82},"22492696","> Is the veracrypt drive, and therefore the HVM, linked to my specific instance of tails or can it be accessed by anyone with a tails usb and my veracrypt authentication details?…","open_source","beta","team",{"praise":87,"objections":96,"requests":138,"questions":167,"alternatives":187},[88],{"value":89,"source":90,"evidence":91},"Interesting project with clear privacy motivation","commenter",[92],{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"22492472","jstanley","> The VM will even connect to full-speed pre-Tor Internet by default, while leaving the Tor connection in Tails undisturbed. This doesn't strike me as a selling point? 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As such, they'll keep torturing you way past the point where…",{"value":113,"source":90,"evidence":114},"Default VM traffic bypassing Tor undermines privacy",[115,116],{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"22496620","ThePowerOfFuet","> The VM will even connect to full-speed pre-Tor Internet by default Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.",{"value":121,"source":90,"evidence":122},"Downloading extra software undermines code inspection",[123],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"22492843","a_imho","Isn't downloading additional software defeats the purpose of inspecting the code?",{"value":128,"source":90,"evidence":129},"Random free space on drive may look suspicious at borders",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"22493335","joantune","That's why TrueCrypt, and I think Vera Crypt have support for a volume that can be decripted with two keys - one will yield a decoy volume where its free space is actually the…",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"22499850","bb88","> if sufficiently motivated, there's no reason that an authoritarian state wouldn't just keep torturing you anyway. 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