[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":320},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-2283981":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":46,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":75,"maker_in_thread":172,"shape":183,"grid":186,"attempts":283,"same_week":284,"maker_shows":185,"maker_hidden":312,"reader_version":313,"card":314},"2283981","Invite to try fiesta.cc","effortless mailing lists","title","Show HN: Invite to try fiesta.cc - effortless mailing lists","https:\u002F\u002Ffiesta.cc\u002F?i=1&s=1drW1z%7CdXHybwS-czt8LYsWHcyBIoHupps","fiesta.cc","mdirolf",1299161240,2011,51,43,240,1097,22,"notable","productivity","mailing lists","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"mailing list","email lists","group email","cc list","debated",-0.016,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},6,8,3,7,24,{"idea":37,"execution":40,"design":41,"privacy":43,"docs":44,"pricing":45},{"positive":38,"critical":39},4,1,{"positive":39,"critical":39},{"positive":42,"critical":38},0,{"positive":42,"critical":39},{"positive":42,"critical":42},{"positive":39,"critical":42},[33,42,33,42,39,42,33,33,42,47,39,42,39,33,42,33,42,47,33,42,42,47,39,42,39,33,39,39,42,33,42,47,47,42,42,42,47,42,33,33],5,null,{"problem":50,"audience":48,"pricing":60,"motivation":48,"time_to_build":48,"stack":66,"openness":73,"stage":74,"team_size":73},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Creating and managing group email lists without signup or name registration.","maker",[54,57],{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},"2284172","Only members of the list can send an email to the list - since the list names are tied to the sender's address you don't need to worry about uniqueness (ie. my family@fiesta.cc…",{"id":58,"by":11,"text":59},"2285208","the defining feature of fiesta.cc (as opposed to posterous, etc) is that list names don't have to be unique - so anybody can make a new list called \"family@fiesta.cc\" without…",{"value":61,"source":52,"evidence":62},"Free for now; ad-free long term idea, no monetization yet.",[63],{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"2284275","In the short term, I don't :P. I have some long term ideas, ideally keeping it ad-free forever.",[67],{"value":68,"source":52,"evidence":69},"MongoDB",[70],{"id":71,"by":11,"text":72},"2284583","Yeah, the other nice thing about this compared to librelist is that you can use any list name you want without worrying about conflicts (since lists are tied to the sender's…","unknown","launched",{"praise":76,"objections":93,"requests":126,"questions":144,"alternatives":156},[77],{"value":78,"source":79,"evidence":80},"Simple concept; list names need not be unique","commenter",[81,85,89],{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},"2284179","petervandijck","Awesome concept. It was about time someone innovated on the mailing list concept.",{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"2284136","ladon86","Great idea, very simple and instantly cross-platform.",{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"2284850","jmathai",">> Yeah, the other nice thing about this compared to librelist is that you can use any list name you want without worrying about conflicts (since lists are tied to the sender's…",[94,108,115],{"value":95,"source":79,"evidence":96},"The .cc domain seems untrustworthy or unclear",[97,101,105],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"2284196","sucuri2","Ah, very cool :) Thanks for the explanation... *btw, I would not use a \".cc\" domain for the project, since it is mostly used by malware stuff lately :\u002F",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"2284802","bobbywilson0","I like how simple this is, but I find the branding a bit off. Nothing is memorable about fiesta.cc, and a .cc domain tells me you may not be serious enough about your business to…",{"id":106,"by":103,"text":107},"2285268","My only point is, what domain do you visit regularly that uses .cc? It just makes me second guess the credibility.",{"value":109,"source":79,"evidence":110},"Spam risk from auto-created lists",[111],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"2284174","perlgeek","Mailing list systems are complicated for a reason: the signup process where you have to send a confirmation mail is there to prevent users from unsolicted mails. How are you…",{"value":116,"source":79,"evidence":117},"Concept and UI are not obvious to new visitors",[118,122],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"2285534","u48998","Okay thanks. It seems like an interesting concept, something that should be native to Email perhaps. However, outside of this thread, if I visit your site (as an average user),…",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"2284162","nbashaw","Is there a UI that I can use to edit the lists? The whole plustag thing seems tedious.",[127,137],{"value":128,"source":79,"evidence":129},"Archive of list history",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"2284428","mmelin","Looks great! I think you should rework the testimonials on the site. I don't think your target audience will recognize a Twitter username. A feature request would be a link to…",{"id":135,"by":120,"text":136},"2285091","Isn't this what Posterous supposedly does? In relation to Yahoo\u002FGoogle groups, where does list archives go?",{"value":138,"source":79,"evidence":139},"Custom domain support via MX record",[140],{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"2284571","measure2xcut1x","Also would be useful for business if I could \"private label\" the service to work on my own domain name (or sub domain) simply by adding a fiesta.cc mx record to my dns.",[145,149],{"value":146,"source":79,"evidence":147},"How is spam prevented without confirmation emails?",[148],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},{"value":150,"source":79,"evidence":151},"How is the business monetized?",[152],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"2284265","hnfwerr","How do you plan to make money? Annoying ads in the emails or some other idea?",[157,164,168],{"value":158,"source":79,"evidence":159},"librelist.com",[160],{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"2284566","alx","Thanks for this, we used librelist.com to create our ML last months, but it was too opened (archives on google, anyone could join) for some people. https:\u002F\u002Ffiesta.cc\u002Fabout do you…",{"value":165,"source":79,"evidence":166},"Posterous",[167],{"id":135,"by":120,"text":136},{"value":169,"source":79,"evidence":170},"Google Groups and Yahoo Groups",[171],{"id":135,"by":120,"text":136},{"comments":173,"answered":174,"key":175},17,9,[176,177,180],{"id":55,"text":56},{"id":178,"text":179},"2284186","Yup, can add (or remove) addresses at any time using the \"List members\" link at the bottom of every fiesta email you get.",{"id":181,"text":182},"2284212","The \".cc\" is meant to evoke the act of CC'ing somebody in an email, or creating a mailing list just by cc'ing somebody. 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