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ERPNext is a client-server application based on Python. There were a couple of itches we were trying to scratch.…",{"value":57,"source":51,"evidence":58},"Small and medium businesses (SMB)",[59,61],{"id":60},"post",{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"value":63,"source":64,"evidence":65},"Free","commenter",[66],{"id":60},{"value":68,"source":51,"evidence":69},"Give SMBs a modern free desktop accounting app, since cloud is a bottleneck and FOSS options lacked modern UX",[70,71],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"id":72,"by":11,"text":73},"23098351","Yes, mostly a modern user experience. Also the web stack is much more accessible there are many developers who are already familiar with it.",[75,79,90,94],{"value":76,"source":51,"evidence":77},"JavaScript",[78],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"value":80,"source":64,"evidence":81},"Electron",[82,86],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"23094393","serkanh","If you look at the package.json, it looks like they used electron and vue.js. https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Ffrappe\u002Fbooks\u002Fblob\u002Fmaster\u002Fpackage.json",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"23094403","mgkimsal","looks like its electron. https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Ffrappe\u002Fbooks or do you mean 'build' in some other way (like a technique or other tool)?",{"value":91,"source":64,"evidence":92},"Vue.js",[93],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},{"value":95,"source":64,"evidence":96},"SQLite",[97,100],{"id":98,"by":11,"text":99},"23094603","Thank you! It is single threaded. 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I see one of the \"features\" is that it's not cloud-based, but it is a web app... so can I self-host it, or would I be stuck with Electron and…",{"id":192,"by":193,"text":194},"23094579","sylvain_kerkour","Great job! Can it sync between devices (to avoid to lose data if my computer die)?",[196,202,209],{"value":197,"source":64,"evidence":198},"How does it relate to ERPNext?",[199],{"id":200,"by":136,"text":201},"23094883","How does this relate to ERPNext? Is this just a packaged ERPNext installation? 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Would be interesting to see what you found lacking.",{"value":227,"source":64,"evidence":228},"ERPNext",[229],{"id":230,"by":231,"text":232},"23094870","ofrzeta","From the same people who also made ERPNext, \"the world's best 100% open source ERP\" which was built in their own (open source) web framework called ... Frappe…",{"value":234,"source":64,"evidence":235},"Manager.io",[236],{"id":237,"by":238,"text":239},"23095115","ValentineC","I've been using Manager.io. It's free and great, but not open source, and runs on Mono instead of Electron.",{"value":241,"source":64,"evidence":242},"Odoo",[243],{"id":244,"by":245,"text":246},"23103328","notenoughhorses","As an accountant (working on becoming a software developer), I've started to develop a reluctance to working with different tools because there are so many bad ones out there.…",{"comments":248,"answered":45,"key":249},8,[250,253,256],{"id":251,"text":252},"23094958","We have been doing ERPNext for 10 years now and a lot of what we did with Frappe Books is based on that learning.",{"id":254,"text":255},"23102600","Thanks for the feedback. Will take it and improve it. You can also file the bugs at https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Ffrappe\u002Fbooks",{"id":257,"text":258},"23099604","Thanks for the feedback. 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