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There have been many times in the past where I wanted to share a link…",{"value":60,"source":54,"evidence":61},"People wanting to sell digital files or links casually, such as sharing to Twitter or IM contacts.",[62,63],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"2406788","I think there are some links that do have value. For example, if I wanted to release a new web app to my Twitter followers but wanted some sort of barrier (without having to set…",{"value":67,"source":54,"evidence":68},"Planned tiered fee starting at 30% and dropping with sales volume; not final.",[69,72,75],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"2406670","Honestly, I'm not sure - hence them not being listed - but I think I'm going to go with 30%. And then for people making >$x a month dropping that in tiers. Thoughts?",{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"2406867","Thought about it. How does this sound? \"i think 30% below $10\u002Fmonth in sales, then 25% below $50, 20% below $100, 15% below $1000, 10% above $1000\"",{"id":76,"by":11,"text":77},"2406830","I'm definitely seeing that. When I get that FAQ page up it'll definitely be much lower than 30%.",{"value":79,"source":54,"evidence":80},"Wanted to share links with a payment barrier without store overhead.",[81],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"value":83,"source":54,"evidence":84},"About a weekend (Saturday and Sunday).",[85],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},[87,99],{"value":88,"source":89,"evidence":90},"Google App Engine (Python)","commenter",[91,95],{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"2407446","kqueue","Traceback (most recent call last): ``` File \"\u002Fbase\u002Fpython_runtime\u002Fpython_lib\u002Fversions\u002F1\u002Fgoogle\u002Fappengine\u002Fext\u002Fwebapp\u002F__init__.py\", line 634, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File…",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"2408555","suprafly","Traceback (most recent call last): File \"\u002Fbase\u002Fpython_runtime\u002Fpython_lib\u002Fversions\u002F1\u002Fgoogle\u002Fappengine\u002Fext\u002Fwebapp\u002F__init__.py\", line 634, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File…",{"value":100,"source":54,"evidence":101},"Stripe for payments",[102],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},"unknown","beta","solo",{"praise":107,"objections":135,"requests":179,"questions":213,"alternatives":231},[108,127],{"value":109,"source":89,"evidence":110},"Simple idea and clean, well-executed design.",[111,115,119,123],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"2406816","mgkimsal","As with many ideas I see floated and mvp'd on HN, I'm jealous. Great idea, good execution. I'd agree with others that the 30% is too high. 5-10% would be acceptable.",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"2408805","tommoor","I think it's a great idea, and really well implemented so far. Best of luck with it!",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"2406922","petercooper","Loving the simplicity of the idea. The simplicity is worth a higher cut (though maybe not 30% ;-)) and makes it a lot more attractive to use in small situations. One thing you…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2407153","bryanh","Brilliant little idea, I think the big selling point is speed and ease of use. I might create a similar product to this for BitBuffet.com (a similar file selling service I…",{"value":128,"source":89,"evidence":129},"Fast, easy way to sell digital goods.",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"2406869","rokhayakebe","This may just be the simplest way to sell digital goods. I think all content should be uploaded to your servers otherwise if someone gets to the final link they can just send…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},[136,151,160,175],{"value":137,"source":89,"evidence":138},"Paid links can be shared freely after purchase; no access control.",[139,143,147],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"2406843","barredo","Is the redirect-link unique in any way? I mean. If anyone buys the access to a a non-unique-link (ie: http:\u002F\u002Fmybook.com\u002Fbook.pdf), and then shares the redirected URL to a third…",{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"2406875","JoshTriplett","Interesting idea, but I see two main issues with this. First, anyone who pays and gets to the resulting link can trivially share that link; of course, you can always ask them…",{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"2406865","retube","How does this work for art though? I mean you want to see the icon\u002Fgraphic\u002Fdesign\u002Fwhatever before you pay for it. Also - once you've been redirected to the page, what's to stop…",{"value":152,"source":89,"evidence":153},"30% fee is too high.",[154,155,156],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"id":157,"by":158,"text":159},"2410137","franze","i love the idea, i hate the new \"We have a tiered system for pricing:\" basically it says: if you earn less, we will take even more. so basically if - lets say - earn 2 dollars…",{"value":161,"source":89,"evidence":162},"Fraud and chargeback risk.",[163,167,171],{"id":164,"by":165,"text":166},"2406929","btmorex","What do you plan on doing about fraud? Seems like it would be way too easy to move money around with stolen credit cards.",{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},"2406962","aquark","Interesting concept -- how do you deal with the legalities? If I buy something am I buying it from you or from the original owner? How long do you hold onto the funds to deal…",{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},"2407997","mtw","Are you collecting taxes? if it's a company registered in the US Also how do you deal with chargebacks?",{"value":176,"source":89,"evidence":177},"Link shortener framing may look like spam tooling.",[178],{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},[180,191,206],{"value":181,"source":89,"evidence":182},"Name your price \u002F pay-what-you-want option.",[183,187],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"2409259","bokonon","I saw it mentioned here already, but the idea of a \"Name your Price\" option would be really cool. Just like how Bandcamp does it. I'm always more motivated to support artists…",{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"2407336","livejamie","I like it, there's a lot of functionality missing, as you said but tons of possibilities. I'd like to see a \"pay as much as you'd like\" feature, where you can set a minimum…",{"value":192,"source":89,"evidence":193},"Show a preview of the linked content before paying.",[194,198,202],{"id":195,"by":196,"text":197},"2407422","eddieplan9","Nice product! Feature request: use the top half of the screen to show a preview of the linked page rendered as a PNG. Use the other half of the screen for soliciting payment. I…",{"id":199,"by":200,"text":201},"2406814","mgeraci","I like the simplicity of the home page, but I would want to see what a user would see when supplied with a gumroad'd link before singing up.",{"id":203,"by":204,"text":205},"2407093","fizx","Please put a video on the homepage. If I'm on the fence, I'd rather watch a video than create an account.",{"value":207,"source":89,"evidence":208},"Limit number of downloads or sales.",[209],{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"2406860","suking","Nice - how about this as a feature: # of downloads allowed. This would allow people to sell just 1 copy or set up something like a groupon-esque clone. First 50 people get 50%…",[214,224],{"value":215,"source":89,"evidence":216},"How are taxes, 1099s and chargebacks handled?",[217,218,219,220],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},{"id":221,"by":222,"text":223},"2409265","Flam","How do I know that, when I pay, I am actually getting what I am paying for? How do you handle chargebacks etc..",{"value":225,"source":89,"evidence":226},"Does Stripe allow this use?",[227],{"id":228,"by":229,"text":230},"2407167","jasonlotito","Things you have to look at fast. * Money laundering. Cap fees now. * You are using Stripe, but you're still collecting CC data. Are you PCI compliant? * Does Stripe allow you to…",[232,239,246],{"value":233,"source":89,"evidence":234},"Pulley",[235],{"id":236,"by":237,"text":238},"2417407","Noleli","I saw this post the other day, then came across Pulley. Is there a difference? http:\u002F\u002Fpulleyapp.com\u002F",{"value":240,"source":89,"evidence":241},"eBay",[242,243],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},{"id":244,"by":11,"text":245},"2406889","I'd like to think that this has lower overhead than eBay. Nothing is there to stop you for now - I think this is more for casual use than building an entire business on top of.…",{"value":247,"source":89,"evidence":248},"PayPal donate links",[249],{"id":250,"by":251,"text":252},"2408682","dools","I'm already giving this away for free with a PayPal donate link at http:\u002F\u002Fpickdropapp.com\u002F but what the hell: http:\u002F\u002Fgumroad.com\u002Fl\u002Fcvhhwi",{"comments":254,"answered":255,"key":256},26,15,[257,258,261],{"id":57,"text":58},{"id":259,"text":260},"2406970","No, that's definitely a good point. I'm going to switch to a .30c + x% (tiered) model - aim to make at least $70-80 of that $99 if you use Gumroad. 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