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I wouldn't expect a C-level professional or someone more senior to be using it. But that doesn't mean you…",{"value":65,"source":51,"evidence":66},"Inspired by a discussion about salary comparability and nostromo's trick",[67],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},{"value":69,"source":51,"evidence":70},"Less than 6 hours",[71],{"id":54,"by":11,"text":55},[],"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":77,"objections":97,"requests":146,"questions":200,"alternatives":211},[78,86],{"value":79,"source":80,"evidence":81},"Nice solution to a known problem","commenter",[82],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"2442425","evoltix","Nice solution to a known problem. The app is simplistic and doesn't really need to collect any more information. As long as people enter accurate salaries then this should prove…",{"value":87,"source":80,"evidence":88},"Good idea, useful with small peer groups",[89,93],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"2442136","shawndumas","A few stats and graphs won't hurt; but it's great for 6hrs.",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"2442231","jsherry","Very cool. Might be interesting to collect age, years of experience and perhaps company while you're at it so you can see a nice distribution. This might destroy some anonymity…",[98,109,120,135],{"value":99,"source":80,"evidence":100},"Context like title, experience and location is needed for meaningful comparison",[101,105],{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"2442205","donohoe","Without context, salary is meaningless. You should ask for title and years experience in the role. Without that a comparison is tough.",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"2442226","CWIZO","This. And also location. Without location this is useless. I can't possibly compare my Slovenian salary to you yankees :)",{"value":110,"source":80,"evidence":111},"Small teams could be identified from salaries, so anonymity fails",[112,116],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"2443424","paradox95","The anonymity doesn't really translate to start ups where there are \u003C 100 employees. I work in an office with 10 people. If everyone posted their salary I would be able to easily…",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"2442264","pstack","I work for a company with well over 100,000 employees, but if I gave my salary, title, and years experience (and as someone else noted, especially if I added my location), I…",{"value":121,"source":80,"evidence":122},"Site did not load over HTTPS cert or was broken in some browsers",[123,127,131],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2442455","IgorPartola","One small issue: https:\u002F\u002Fsalaryshare.me\u002F does not work. Considering who this is targeted at, I wouldn't want my office mates who are my co-workers to snoop on my POST to your…",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"2442813","hammock","Put your bugs on this thread. Submit button does not work in IE7",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"2444649","Joakal","Firefox throws an untrusted connection warning that this certificate belongs to another website.",{"value":136,"source":80,"evidence":137},"Boss could flood pool with fake low salaries",[138,142],{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"2444318","codexon","Without verifying anyone's identity, couldn't the boss just flood the pool with low salaries?",{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"2442341","mesmerized","What's stopping someone from sending a link, then entering a bunch of fake salaries (by clearing cookies), to find out co-worker's salary (not one of the ones you entered, though…",[147,162,173,183,193],{"value":148,"source":80,"evidence":149},"Histogram, average, and median display",[150,154,158],{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"2442483","scotty79","Wouldn't kill to show nice histogram of the pool.",{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"2442558","mcantelon","And an average.",{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"2442742","Sukotto","This looks great. Ideas for the future... ``` - improve formatting of the list (right justify numbers for example) - slider to allow us to cut off low and high outliers when…",{"value":163,"source":80,"evidence":164},"Support for other currencies",[165,169],{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"2442269","timrobinson","> US Dollars, please But I get paid in pounds sterling. Can't this just be a free-form text field?",{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"2443225","Sandman","So create a context. Suppose you're a junior developer in Slovenia and want to know how much your peers are earning. Create a pool named something like 'Slovenia junior dev…",{"value":174,"source":51,"evidence":175},"Minimum participant count option",[176,180],{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"2442327","zipdog","Who defines the 'minimum number of people'? If it's not user-defined, I think you should make it clear what that value is. Otherwise, if I share this to my team of 7, but the…",{"id":181,"by":11,"text":182},"2442508","That is correct. I did have one version where the first form asked for the minimum number of participants. I discarded it because I wanted to get the easiest \"action\" form. To be…",{"value":184,"source":51,"evidence":185},"Time-based expiring pools",[186,190],{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"2442071","JoachimSchipper","Nice idea, but I'd want to e.g. wait a day\u002Fweek\u002Fmonth and then disclose all salaries and close the pool. After all, salaries added after the pool has been opened are much less…",{"id":191,"by":11,"text":192},"2442109","I did plan for time-based, self-expiring pools. I'm also thinking of adding an option to get a user-configurable minimum number of participants. For the sake of simplicity, I…",{"value":194,"source":80,"evidence":195},"Public pools listed on front page",[196],{"id":197,"by":198,"text":199},"2443793","klochner","How about listing public pools on the front page (and giving the option to make a pool public)",[201,205],{"value":202,"source":80,"evidence":203},"Who sets the minimum number of people before results show?",[204],{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},{"value":206,"source":80,"evidence":207},"How is the webfaction certificate used and is it trusted?",[208],{"id":209,"by":125,"text":210},"2443781","I imagine that this will deter people from quickly starting up a packet sniffer when they share links to your site. However, how are you able to use webfaction's cert? 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