[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":853},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-25148000":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":5,"line_source":6,"title":7,"url":8,"domain":9,"maker":10,"posted_at":11,"year":12,"points":13,"comments":14,"rank_in_year":15,"shown_in_year":16,"top":17,"tier":18,"category":19,"subcategory":20,"format":21,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":49,"post_text":50,"what":51,"said":88,"maker_in_thread":198,"shape":203,"grid":208,"attempts":816,"same_week":817,"maker_shows":17,"maker_hidden":845,"reader_version":846,"card":847},"25148000","Zfs.rent","title","Show HN: Zfs.rent","https:\u002F\u002Fzfs.rent","zfs.rent","ryanmjacobs",1605781268,2020,403,219,84,3028,3,"legend","infrastructure","hosted storage","web_app",[23,24,25,26],"zfs snapshot backup","remote zfs send","dedicated hard drive hosting","offsite backup","curious",-0.032,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},19,49,5,25,98,{"design":36,"idea":39,"docs":41,"pricing":43,"privacy":46,"execution":47,"performance":48},{"positive":37,"critical":38},6,0,{"positive":40,"critical":37},7,{"positive":42,"critical":37},2,{"positive":44,"critical":45},1,4,{"positive":38,"critical":45},{"positive":38,"critical":17},{"positive":44,"critical":42},[32,44,44,17,44,38,17,17,17,44,44,38,45,45,17,42,42,38,17,42,17,32,17,44,17,38,38,32,38,42,44,45,42,32,17,42,44,42,17,45],null,{"problem":52,"audience":64,"pricing":73,"motivation":50,"time_to_build":50,"stack":85,"openness":86,"stage":87,"team_size":86},{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Offsite backup target for ZFS snapshots without self-hosting","inferred",[56,60],{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},"25148689","est31","I think the target market is technologically minded people who have servers at home but want a backup in case their house burns down\u002Fgets flooded\u002Fetc. You can probably also run…",{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"25148844","alphager","If you don't know what ZFS and zfs-snapshots are, you are not the target audience of the service. No sense in trying to explain it. If you have even the slightest knowledge about…",{"value":65,"source":54,"evidence":66},"People who run ZFS and want offsite backups",[67,68,69],{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"25151523","implying","I've been looking for an off-site cloud storage provider that takes encrypted zfs sends, so I believe I'm in the target market for this. My use case is a home storage server with…",{"value":74,"source":75,"evidence":76},"Bandwidth about $5 per TB; rent-to-own drive plan with 8TB drives","commenter",[77,81],{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"25151606","Poiesis","Neat idea. A couple of questions: Does the nominal bandwidth cost of $5 for 1 TB mean it's $5 each month for a TB per month? Or is it simply \"every 1TB transferred adds $5\", no…",{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},"25154581","ApolloFortyNine","$5\u002FTB with only a guarantee of 100mbps is kind of unacceptable no? I definitely think you would have benefited from finding a cheaper datacenter, or moving your profit margins…",[],"unknown","beta",{"praise":89,"objections":112,"requests":142,"questions":157,"alternatives":181},[90,101],{"value":91,"source":75,"evidence":92},"Clean, text-centered design",[93,97],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"25148624","masa331","I have no use for this service but i definitely like your text centered websites. Right to the point, no disturbing and useless images or graphics. Thanks, that was a breath of a…",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"25152763","waynesonfire","excellent UI.",{"value":102,"source":75,"evidence":103},"Good service concept for ZFS users",[104,108],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"25154673","dcchambers","This is pretty neat. I am sure the comparisons to rsync.net will be made, but I see both services as unique and as covering different use cases. Good luck with the beta!",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"25157198","unixhero","This sounds line a viable option for me. I really like the service.",[113,123,131],{"value":114,"source":75,"evidence":115},"Unclear what the service is from the landing page",[116,120],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"25148680","user-the-name","I find this site much, much less useful than your average image-heavy marketing website. It completely fails to explain, in simple, general terms, what the hell it is or why I…",{"id":121,"by":118,"text":122},"25148765","I'm not asking for that, I am asking for a short, clear description of what their service is good for and why I might want it.",{"value":124,"source":75,"evidence":125},"Bandwidth pricing too high",[126,130],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"25152366","ed25519FUUU","The bandwidth is what kills this for me. I actually have a use-case for something like this. I'm re-partitioning my ZFS array, adding some space, and need to host all of the data…",{"id":82,"by":83,"text":84},{"value":132,"source":75,"evidence":133},"Single drive gives no ZFS redundancy or scrubbing",[134,138],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"25148633","rakoo","I might be missing something, but the whole point of zpools is to guard against disks failure; this service only gives you one drive at a time, so you are back to square one. Is…",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"25153077","rubatuga","You lose a key feature of ZFS, which is scrubbing. This feature requires multiple drives in a zpool, while you only provides one. Scrubbing generally happens once a month to…",[143,150],{"value":144,"source":75,"evidence":145},"Support for btrfs send",[146],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"25148658","daurnimator","Sounds great; would you consider offering the same for `btrfs send`?",{"value":151,"source":75,"evidence":152},"Ability to ship your own drive for backup",[153],{"id":154,"by":155,"text":156},"25152545","vitiral","Recommendation: since the \"rent to own model\" is so built in already, also permit people to ship you THEIR drive (which they still get to own). This allows them to have a backup…",[158,166,170],{"value":159,"source":75,"evidence":160},"Can encrypted sends be stored without the key?",[161,165],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"25148494","mavhc","Do you have to end the key in the remote machine to send it encrypted backups? Can you merge in incremental sends without decrypting the backup on the remote machine?",{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},{"value":167,"source":75,"evidence":168},"Is bandwidth monthly or cumulative?",[169],{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},{"value":171,"source":75,"evidence":172},"Is there a cheaper option or how is it priced against rsync.net?",[173,177],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},"25148360","Thorentis","So how is this better than rsync.net?",{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"25149021","jl6","1. This seems very, very cheap per-TB compared to other hosted storage. Are you making any compromises here that your users should know about? How do you explain the price…",[182,187,191],{"value":183,"source":75,"evidence":184},"rsync.net",[185,186],{"id":174,"by":175,"text":176},{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},{"value":188,"source":75,"evidence":189},"Hetzner storage box",[190],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},{"value":192,"source":75,"evidence":193},"Backblaze",[194],{"id":195,"by":196,"text":197},"25152312","sabujp","what are uses of this? if I want to back up linux I can now via https:\u002F\u002Fhelp.backblaze.com\u002Fhc\u002Fen-us\u002Farticles\u002F217664628-How-does-Backblaze-support-Linux-Users- . This option seems…",{"comments":44,"answered":44,"key":199},[200],{"id":201,"text":202},"25149865","Hahaha no I have several sites running with that Let's Encrypt cert. I'm working on separating them out, but until I get my DNS Let's Encrypt process automated, I'm 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