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While OSX is far better than most at making configuration of secure connections easy, we think there is…",{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},"2542621","Hi, all. I just got the MVP of my new app out the door and I'd love to get your feedback on it! If you'd like to give it a go, drop me an email [davepeck at getcloak.com] and…",{"value":60,"source":61,"evidence":62},"Everyday users who connect on public wifi and travel","inferred",[63,66],{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"2542800","We've heard this from several people and are investigating what a reasonable model would be. (Bandwidth is the key driver of our costs.) I would say that our current (beta)…",{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"2542789","capnrefsmmat","Have you considered some sort of pay-by-usage (by time, by bandwidth, whatever) plan for people who don't know how often they'll need a VPN? 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Having never paid for such a service your prices seem perfectly reasonable to…",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"2543013","haukurgud","Very cool stuff, something I would most like use myself :)",{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"2542784","vertr","This isn't entirely constructive, but I like your design. It's close to some of the stuff I've been building lately, and gives me a few ideas for my next design project.",{"value":112,"source":97,"evidence":113},"Reasonable pricing",[114],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},[116,127,138,142],{"value":117,"source":97,"evidence":118},"Built-in OS X VPN already works well",[119,123],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"2542712","robterrell","I like your site, but I'm unsure how this would be better than simply using the built-in VPN stuff. I have paid VPN account configured and I use it when on public wifi. Also, I…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2542837","lamnk","Snow Leopard has included built-in VPN support (IPsec and L2TP, no OpenVPN). 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