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Tried with a friend just now and the 3D audio is really something else.",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"25500070","shafyy","If you've ever tried social apps in VR, you'll know that the \"social presence\" is what sets it apart from a 2D video call, even though you only see avatars of others and not…",{"value":108,"source":93,"evidence":109},"Works in the browser without a download",[110,114],{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"25498171","Raphmedia","Here's a screenshot: https:\u002F\u002Fi.imgur.com\u002FVVt0zCU.jpg In short, you move around in the virtual space and your avatar's head is your webcam feed. There is also positional audio, so…",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},[116,131,150],{"value":117,"source":93,"evidence":118},"Landing page explains nothing before asking for camera access",[119,123,127],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"25498144","sbarre","Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? 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I had a bunch of \"phantom\" avatars for some reason (https:\u002F\u002Fimgur.com\u002Fa\u002FixBGuK8) Some thoughts: - the idea someone just mentioned in the \"launch party\" about having a…",{"value":174,"source":93,"evidence":175},"Show own avatar and speaking indicators",[176,180],{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"25501154","vincentmarle","I gave access to my camera and everything, but I didn't understand what this product does until I saw this screenshot in another thread: https:\u002F\u002Fi.imgur.com\u002FVVt0zCU.jpg I think…",{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},[182,197,204],{"value":183,"source":93,"evidence":184},"How much was the domain",[185,189,193],{"id":186,"by":187,"text":188},"25498372","chickenpotpie","Ok I got to know: how much did you spend to get pop.com?",{"id":190,"by":191,"text":192},"25501002","dandigangi","I'm afraid to ask how much money you burned on a premium domain like that...",{"id":194,"by":195,"text":196},"25500502","mritchie712","How much for the domain?",{"value":198,"source":93,"evidence":199},"How does it make money",[200],{"id":201,"by":202,"text":203},"25498253","ghostpepper","Have you done any measurements of capture-to-display latency? 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