[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":442},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-2553181":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":9,"maker":10,"posted_at":11,"year":12,"points":13,"comments":14,"rank_in_year":15,"shown_in_year":16,"top":17,"tier":18,"category":19,"subcategory":20,"format":21,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":45,"post_text":46,"what":47,"said":77,"maker_in_thread":228,"shape":241,"grid":244,"attempts":405,"same_week":406,"maker_shows":37,"maker_hidden":434,"reader_version":435,"card":436},"2553181","Fitocracy","An RPG for fitness","title","Show HN: Fitocracy, an RPG for fitness",null,"brianmwang",1305564643,2011,102,65,100,1097,10,"notable","consumer_social","fitness social game","web_app",[23,24,25,26],"fitness game","workout tracker","gamified fitness","fitness community","mixed",-0.05,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},6,17,5,12,40,{"design":36,"docs":39,"idea":41,"execution":42,"privacy":44},{"positive":37,"critical":38},1,3,{"positive":40,"critical":37},0,{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":40,"critical":43},4,{"positive":40,"critical":37},[38,37,40,38,37,40,37,38,37,37,38,37,38,40,40,38,37,38,32,38,32,38,38,38,38,38,40,37,32,38,37,37,38,38,37,32,32,38,38,40],"My cofounder and I have been working on a site called Fitocracy (www.fitocracy.com), which is a social game for fitness.  The idea was very much inspired by our experiences growing up as nerds playing video games, later on discovering weightlifting, and drawing the parallel between working out and \"leveling yourself up.\"  XKCD has a pretty well known comic to this effect: http:\u002F\u002Fxkcd.com\u002F189\u002F.  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My feedback on why it hasn't grabbed me yet: 1) Design - as Goronmon pointed out above, the design doesn't feel fun or…",{"id":67,"by":10,"text":68},"2553658","Hey Jayson, Thanks for the thoughtful feedback. Responses below: 1) Design is certainly something I'd like to work on improving. As noted in the OP, I handle the design for…",{"value":70,"source":50,"evidence":71},"Inspired by founders' experience as gamers who discovered weightlifting and saw workouts as leveling up",[72],{"id":53},[],"unknown","beta","team",{"praise":78,"objections":101,"requests":138,"questions":189,"alternatives":201},[79,94],{"value":80,"source":56,"evidence":81},"Gamifying workouts as leveling up is a good idea",[82,86,90],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"2553225","marksbirch","Nice website and interesting concept that gets to the motivation issues that prevent most fitness regimes from being successful.",{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"2553726","tgandrews","Love it.",{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"2553562","JonLim","Awesome, always a fan of the gamification of activities, especially if they will result in a net benefit for the participant. Would love to talk shop about what you guys made…",{"value":95,"source":56,"evidence":96},"Design and activity feed are good",[97],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"2553670","thomasdavis","I actually don't agree with these points. I like the design and didn't have any negative sentiments towards it. I didn't seem to have performance issues. I thought it was quite…",[102,114,123,131],{"value":103,"source":56,"evidence":104},"Heavy skew toward weightlifting; cardio and bodyweight lacking",[105,106,110],{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"2553476","3dFlatLander","You should consider adding some more body weight achievements maybe some more exercises. I prefer them to weights--cheaper, always available. http:\u002F\u002Fwww.frixo.com\u002Fsites\u002Ffitness\u002F…",{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"2554026","EMRo","1st) Awesome Idea. I have no idea how many times I got in trouble as a kid for OD'ing on FF3 and 7. Now that I no longer play RPG's but do dig the gym, this is a great paralell.…",{"value":115,"source":56,"evidence":116},"Sign-up requires Facebook or Twitter permissions that feel invasive",[117,120],{"id":118,"by":60,"text":119},"2553339","I wanted to log in with Twitter (don't like FB..), but you wanted to have quite a nice list of permissions. Without even knowing a lot about your app, why should I agree (I…",{"id":121,"by":60,"text":122},"2553389","Add something like that to the signup process then. I doubt that I'm the only one that just didn't dare to hand out Twitter access to ~something unknown~. Especially with the…",{"value":124,"source":56,"evidence":125},"Internal server errors during sign-up",[126,130],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"2553227","_ouxp","Would love to check it out. Got an internal server error on fitocracy.com\u002Fsetup after redirect from twitter authorization.",{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},{"value":132,"source":56,"evidence":133},"Achievements not beginner friendly",[134],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"2554150","dkarl","I checked out the achievements, and they are mostly strength-focused and pretty daunting for a beginner but possibly too simple for an experienced lifter. The list of…",[139,148,159,174,181],{"value":140,"source":56,"evidence":141},"Add cardio, bodyweight and other activity achievements",[142,143,144],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"2558025","2muchcoffeeman","How about building the achievements around programs that will actually result in real improvement? Or around programs to achieve certain goals? Everybody always wants cardio. I…",{"value":149,"source":56,"evidence":150},"Mobile app or logging during workouts",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"2559518","gadders","Looks rather neat, and it's a good idea. I think the issue for me would be taking the time to update it. I use Jefit on android whilst working out to replace paper and pen for…",{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"2554088","gcb","and it's still weird for weight lift... i'd love to go to the workout with my cellphone and a pre-typed program for the day, and just fill in the repetitions and weight i…",{"value":160,"source":56,"evidence":161},"Integrate with Fitbit, Daily Burn, FatSecret or other fitness data",[162,166,170],{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"2553387","stewarty","How about hitting up the Daily Burn API for workouts as well? I use Daily Burn to track my calories and workouts as it collates them for me nicely and it would suck to have to…",{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"2553669","ortusdux","FatSecret would be nice too http:\u002F\u002Fplatform.fatsecret.com\u002Fapi\u002F",{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"2553454","there","i didn't see it on the front page but does it interface with any existing data tracking sites like fitbit or strava? you may want to look at http:\u002F\u002Fearndit.com\u002F to see how they…",{"value":175,"source":56,"evidence":176},"Public API",[177],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"2553492","rav124","Any thought of adding a simple API? We have some iPhone\u002FAndroid fitness apps that we looking at hooking into a leaderboard or other social system. This might be an excellent match.",{"value":182,"source":56,"evidence":183},"Ask for equipment type to scope quests",[184,185],{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},{"id":186,"by":187,"text":188},"2554422","dekayed","As someone else mentioned, some of the quests require equipment that I don't have. How about asking the user what type of equipment they have? I wouldn't go too detailed into it,…",[190,194],{"value":191,"source":56,"evidence":192},"What data is shared with Facebook and Twitter accounts",[193],{"id":118,"by":60,"text":119},{"value":195,"source":56,"evidence":196},"How to connect with group features and PvP challenges",[197],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"2554639","bobbles","Hey I've been using fitocracy for a few weeks now (same username) and I'm wondering if theres any plan to add extra functionality for groups? I believe (could be wrong) that…",[202,213,220,224],{"value":203,"source":56,"evidence":204},"Nerd Fitness blog and community",[205,209],{"id":206,"by":207,"text":208},"2553262","smokeyj","You should check out my buddies blog, his community would align well with yours, http:\u002F\u002Fnerdfitness.com\u002F Maybe send him a message and start working something out?",{"id":210,"by":211,"text":212},"2553352","mikebridgman","I second this. Steve at Nerdfitness.com runs a great blog and community, you should definitely attempt to connect with him.",{"value":214,"source":56,"evidence":215},"Epic Win",[216],{"id":217,"by":218,"text":219},"2553381","Goronmon","While your site layout is very nice, it's seems like the theme is a bit distant from the subject matter, which you describe as an RPG for fitness. 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