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The AWS UI is a hot mess. Good luck.",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"25752320","adwww","Congrats on the product launch, looks a neat UI. AWS easily has the worst UX of the three major clouds I've used. From that perspective my favourite by far is GCP. Do you forsee…",{"value":100,"source":88,"evidence":101},"Read-only cross-account IAM role approach praised for security",[102],{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"25753212","philsnow","I'm so refreshed to see this designed this way. 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