[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":536},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-2709720":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":44,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":72,"maker_in_thread":226,"shape":231,"grid":234,"attempts":499,"same_week":500,"maker_shows":41,"maker_hidden":528,"reader_version":529,"card":530},"2709720","Freeversation","Can anonymous chat within identified groups create better discussions?","title","Show HN: Can anonymous chat within identified groups create better discussions?","http:\u002F\u002Ffreeversation.com\u002Fblog\u002F2011\u002F06\u002F29\u002Fidentified-anonymity\u002F","freeversation.com","akharris",1309360019,2011,165,104,46,1097,5,"notable","productivity","anonymous group discussion","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"anonymous discussion","group chat","anonymous feedback","employee feedback","mixed",-0.078,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},10,32,7,16,65,{"idea":37,"execution":39,"privacy":42,"design":43},{"positive":31,"critical":38},8,{"positive":40,"critical":41},0,1,{"positive":40,"critical":33},{"positive":40,"critical":40},[45,45,45,40,40,45,45,45,40,45,41,41,41,41,46,45,45,45,18,45,40,40,40,18,47,45,46,41,41,41,41,47,45,45,45,18,18,45,40,41],3,2,4,null,{"problem":50,"audience":56,"pricing":48,"motivation":48,"time_to_build":48,"stack":68,"openness":69,"stage":70,"team_size":71},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Anonymous discussion within identified groups to get more honest conversation.","maker",[54],{"id":55},"post",{"value":57,"source":58,"evidence":59},"Groups such as companies and teams, where members want candid discussion.","inferred",[60,64],{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"2710987","dbs11","With regards to freeversation, we're looking to implement our anonymous conversation tool in multiple use-scenarios. One of those scenarios would be to facilitate the type of HR…",{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},"2710054","varikin","A forum was recently launched at work which allows anonymous posts and comments. It has been both good and bad. The good: Open discussions about sensitive topics with fear being…",[],"unknown","beta","team",{"praise":73,"objections":102,"requests":149,"questions":182,"alternatives":198},[74,87],{"value":75,"source":76,"evidence":77},"Anonymous discussion of sensitive topics is useful and fills a real gap.","commenter",[78,79,83],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"2710464","mechanical_fish","I await the results of this experiment with interest. My gut feeling is that: A) To first order this won't really work. You can't really be anonymous in a closed group. In a…",{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"2709897","athst","I think it's a cool idea, kinda like LikeALittle but for organizational stuff. To pre-select the group of people who can participate, you might want to look at a model like…",{"value":88,"source":76,"evidence":89},"Interesting idea worth watching.",[90,94,98],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"2710024","eavc","I love this kind of attempt at innovation. I hope you are able to stick with this enough to find a userbase for it.",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"2709790","nowarninglabel","Neat, I had thought about putting this same concept into action, though it seemed like anonymity would be really difficult until you had a large enough user base. Otherwise, you…",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"2709865","mtdev","This looks really cool, I like the layout. I have been working on something similar, (http:\u002F\u002Fmobilethread.com), which lets you setup\u002Fjoin anonymous chat threads and is designed…",[103,122,141],{"value":104,"source":76,"evidence":105},"Writing style makes authors easy to identify in small groups.",[106,110,114,118],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"2709766","spking","Possibly. However, I've found that it's fairly easy to identify who is saying what based on writing style, grammar and punctuation habits. Any HR person will tell you that's how…",{"id":111,"by":112,"text":113},"2709779","highace","This immediately strikes me as a \"why didn't I think of that\" idea, but in practice (in my workplace at least) everyone would figure out who was who based on the writing style…",{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"2709857","ryan_brunner","To lend some credence to the \"it's easy to tell who's writing what\", we recently used Rypple as a team review aid for team members to anonymously ask for feedback from the rest…",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"2710045","hammock","I suppose it depends on the size of the company, but I can't imagine any HR person at a co with >20 ee's that could identify someone based on their writing style unless it was…",{"value":123,"source":76,"evidence":124},"Anonymity is weak against the operator and small-group inference; privacy concerns.",[125,129,133,137],{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"2710389","bugsy","This is a good point. To date I have not had an anonymous survey in a small group that hasn't bitten me in the ass afterwards. I also find some anonymous surveys interesting when…",{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"2710599","qjz","I've worked in environments where it would be trivial to get an email of your SSN the moment you visit an HR online survey, let alone complete it. It's possible to promise…",{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"2710405","windexh8er","You'd think a service revolving around privacy (i.e. anonymity) would go to greater lengths to use SSL across the entire site. Otherwise, fantastic idea. Can't say I haven't…",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"2710507","drivebyacct2","Is everyone anonymous or pseudo-anonymous (My messages are attributed to anonymous35 or something)? If so, as people leave and email\u002Fanonymous names disappear you can identify…",{"value":142,"source":76,"evidence":143},"Anonymous forums get dominated by trolls and negativity without moderation.",[144,145],{"id":65,"by":66,"text":67},{"id":146,"by":147,"text":148},"2712332","veyron","Tried, failed miserably. Look up bored at butler. The general course of events is: Person A will make a comment about person B, person B will complain (under some misguided…",[150,165,175],{"value":151,"source":76,"evidence":152},"Obfuscate writing style, e.g. stripping punctuation or translating text.",[153,157,161],{"id":154,"by":155,"text":156},"2709843","scrrr","Perhaps you could run each message through Google translate or something similar (e.g. English -> French -> English) to obfuscate the writing style. Otherwise, as others have…",{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"2709963","jabo","You could probably strip all punctuation and capitalization from any user input so that the style remains fairly obfuscated. IMO it's punctuation and capitalization that usually…",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"2709836","terio","Perhaps you can try translating the message to another language and back. Then present the resulting text to the user for corrections. The resulting grammar and punctuation could…",{"value":166,"source":76,"evidence":167},"Add moderation, voting or thresholds for comments.",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"2710077","j79","How does moderation work? I could see the bad seeds, who contribute nothing to a discussion, being filtered out by community moderation? Even taking an approach similar to HN…",{"id":173,"by":62,"text":174},"2710425","We're planning to implement a rating system for comments. 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