[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":403},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-27316752":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":44,"post_text":46,"what":47,"said":66,"maker_in_thread":189,"shape":200,"grid":203,"attempts":362,"same_week":367,"maker_shows":40,"maker_hidden":396,"reader_version":397,"card":398},"27316752","Ninfex","An experimental, people-powered search engine","title","Show HN: An experimental, people-powered search engine","https:\u002F\u002Fninfex.com\u002Fhello","ninfex.com","zeeshanqureshi",1622216541,2021,215,63,206,2533,9,"notable","web_saas","community search engine","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"people-powered search","community curated index","search engine","votable urls","mixed",-0.06,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":18},7,17,2,35,{"idea":36,"privacy":38,"execution":41,"design":42,"pricing":43},{"positive":31,"critical":37},5,{"positive":39,"critical":40},0,1,{"positive":39,"critical":33},{"positive":39,"critical":40},{"positive":39,"critical":39},[39,45,40,40,39,40,37,39,40,39,37,37,37,40,37,45,45,39,39,45,39,39,39,45,45,40,45,37,45,45,45,40,45,40,45,45,40,39,45,37],3,null,{"problem":48,"audience":55,"pricing":46,"motivation":59,"time_to_build":46,"stack":63,"openness":64,"stage":65,"team_size":64},{"value":49,"source":50,"evidence":51},"Search results are inconsistent; people rely on community sites like Reddit for quality","maker",[52],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},"27316760","Hi HN, I’m the creator of Ninfex. I’ve been unhappy with the inconsistent quality of web search results for quite some time now. Wanting to do something about this for myself, I…",{"value":56,"source":50,"evidence":57},"Power users who restrict searches to communities and want better search results",[58],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"value":60,"source":50,"evidence":61},"Unhappy with inconsistent web search quality; wanted a personal index shared online",[62],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},[],"unknown","prototype",{"praise":67,"objections":91,"requests":117,"questions":144,"alternatives":156},[68,84],{"value":69,"source":70,"evidence":71},"Interesting, useful concept with community-driven search","commenter",[72,76,80],{"id":73,"by":74,"text":75},"27321423","akomtu","The idea has been floating in the air for quite a while and I agree that something like this is really needed. What I'd personally want to see is a network of anon users hand…",{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},"27321472","throwamon","This is very similar to something I envision but am too lazy\u002Funknowledgeable to implement, so I wish you lots of success. What about adding a functionality to Ninfex so it…",{"id":81,"by":82,"text":83},"27322154","ianwalter","Nice. I am building this too. Looking forward to exploring your vision of it.",{"value":85,"source":70,"evidence":86},"Backlinking from Reddit\u002FHN is a useful idea",[87],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"27337451","sdwr","Site looks good, but feels unfocused. Asking people to submit and tag a bunch of links doesn't feel like a viable jumping off point, and I don't think people are seriously going…",[92,103,110],{"value":93,"source":70,"evidence":94},"Votes could be gamed by sock puppets and click farms",[95,99],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"27318259","kieckerjan","I like the idea very much. First question that comes to mind though is: how gameable is this system?",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"27322153","KETpXDDzR","How do you prevent click-farms of promoting entries? All user-based decision making problems can easily be rigged by fake users\u002Fsock puppets. As long as there's a monetary…",{"value":104,"source":70,"evidence":105},"Spam risk from manual URL submission",[106],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"27318596","kevincox","While I love the concept it seems somewhat flawed. If every URL needs to be manually submitted it is far easier for spammers than actual users. Especially if you need a handful…",{"value":111,"source":70,"evidence":112},"UI wastes space; too few results visible on screen",[113],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"27323808","benrbray","I love the idea! I have a UI suggestion: There is way too much wasted space. Information density is crucial for a search engine. It should be possible to see 20-30 results at a…",[118,129,137],{"value":119,"source":70,"evidence":120},"Open source the project",[121,125],{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"27324019","rapnie","This is a really nice project. Along with the crowdsourcing nature an open and FOSS approach is a good fit. Do you consider open-sourcing?",{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"27319910","ibraheemdev","This is a very promising idea, thanks for making this! I was just wondering if you were planning on making the site open source, or will this a commercial, closed-source product,…",{"value":130,"source":70,"evidence":131},"Show forum\u002Fcommunity posts linking to a URL automatically",[132,133],{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"27322024","twobitshifter","Neat idea. You may want to crawl and farm some data from hackernews, reddit, lobste.rs, metafilter, stackoverflow etc. Maybe you could even use wikipedia reference links. Right…",{"value":138,"source":70,"evidence":139},"Email verification or domain verification for submitters",[140],{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"27344854","drdavid","If it gets bigger, you may need to do email verification - at the minimum - to avoid people filling it up with junk submissions. You could probably also do something for site…",[145,152],{"value":146,"source":70,"evidence":147},"How will costs be covered?",[148],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"27321251","atweiden","Great idea. Reminds me of a previous HN comment [1]: ``` How to build the next Google: all good results these days are within communities, and Google search has become useless…",{"value":153,"source":70,"evidence":154},"How gameable is the voting system?",[155],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},[157,164,175,185],{"value":158,"source":70,"evidence":159},"del.icio.us",[160],{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"27318913","duncanwerner","This looks very much like the old site del.icio.us (which was bought by yahoo and discarded). Don't bother going there but see [wikipedia][1]. The trick there was that it was…",{"value":165,"source":70,"evidence":166},"DMOZ \u002F Curlie",[167,171],{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},"27320488","geocrasher","Reminds me of DMOZ. https:\u002F\u002Fdmoz-odp.org\u002F What is it that makes this a search engine, though?",{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},"27321524","Seirdy","Interesting. Other \"people-powered\" search engines out there include: - Meorca (https:\u002F\u002Fmeorca.com\u002F). It's mostly built from user-submitted sites. - Search My Site…",{"value":176,"source":70,"evidence":177},"Searx, YaCy, DuckDuckGo",[178,182],{"id":179,"by":180,"text":181},"27322370","marcodiego","There are alternatives to google. I'm not talking only about duck or millionshort[0]. I'm talking about p2p-like search engine like searx[1] and yacy[2]. If some of these…",{"id":183,"by":173,"text":184},"27323730","I've cataloged a bunch of engines with their own independent indexes: https:\u002F\u002Fseirdy.one\u002F2021\u002F03\u002F10\u002Fsearch-engines-with-own-indexes.html HN discussion:…",{"value":186,"source":70,"evidence":187},"Meorca and Search My Site",[188],{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},{"comments":190,"answered":191,"key":192},18,8,[193,194,197],{"id":53,"text":54},{"id":195,"text":196},"27318358","Thanks for the feedback. Honestly, I'm not very sure myself and I'll have to wait and see. The votes could be gamed perhaps (multiple accounts etc.), but I could restrict voting…",{"id":198,"text":199},"27319378","Just read through the features of del.icio.us on wikipedia, you are right about the overlaps. 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