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But Jitsi doesnt have a shared whiteboard (with graphing calculators etc) yet which I think is Nettu Meet's main strength when doing online learning",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"27435481","svarlamov","This is a really brilliant project, and I love that it's open source! I'm certain that for tutoring, this is a much-needed self-hosting option! When it comes to schools, I'd be…",{"value":62,"source":50,"evidence":63},"Tutors, teachers and schools doing online learning",[64,65,69],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"27435682","jstummbillig","Very cool! A speech therapist friend of mine recently lamented about the lack of good solutions for online therapy in this space, and this seems to check most of the marks. Two…",{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"27440335","germinalphrase","Perhaps you can say this already, but please make sure you have some moderation capabilities. 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