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Feedback?","http:\u002F\u002Fcleartax.in","cleartax.in","architgupta",1311520456,2011,75,60,161,1097,15,"notable","web_saas","tax filing","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"income tax india","e-filing","tax return india","itr filing","mixed",-0.262,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},2,8,4,10,24,{"design":37,"docs":39,"idea":41,"pricing":42,"execution":44,"performance":45},{"positive":38,"critical":33},1,{"positive":40,"critical":38},0,{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":40,"critical":43},3,{"positive":40,"critical":38},{"positive":40,"critical":40},[43,38,38,43,40,43,43,38,47,40,43,47,43,40,38,38,40,43,40,43,40,40,38,38,40,40,40,40,40,40,38,43,40,43,40,38,43,38,40,40],5,null,{"problem":50,"audience":62,"pricing":69,"motivation":48,"time_to_build":48,"stack":79,"openness":80,"stage":81,"team_size":80},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Filing income tax returns in India is complicated.","commenter",[54,58],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},"2800004","braindead_in","I used this to file my wife's tax return the other day. The experience was quite good (going by Indian standards). Few things based on my experience. 1) There should be a…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},"2800136","meow","Wish I have seen this last week :). Had to pay 250 bucks to a CA. I tried filing through the income tax website before that.. it looked okay, but you have to jump through a lot…",{"value":63,"source":52,"evidence":64},"Indian taxpayers, including salaried employees and business or professional earners.",[65,66],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},"2801331","Actually we are starting to get requests for higher-end cases. Lot of people who earn income from business and profession would like a quick, friendly UI to get their taxes done.…",{"value":70,"source":71,"evidence":72},"Basic e-filing is free; professional CA review costs roughly $5.5 to $30.","maker",[73,76],{"id":74,"by":11,"text":75},"2799696","We are still arriving at a good pricing model. Right now we charge from $5.5 to $30 for professional CA support. (CA in India is similar to a CPA in the US)",{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},"2799817","Noted. Basic efiling is free on the website.",[],"unknown","beta",{"praise":83,"objections":103,"requests":131,"questions":168,"alternatives":178},[84,92],{"value":85,"source":52,"evidence":86},"Usable, lean interface that is easy to use compared with the government site.",[87,91],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"2799924","gary4gar","Hello Archit, Fellow Indian Geek here. I must say good job on the site, you have managed to make something that is usable. Here is some of my suggestions: 1) I think you need to…",{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"value":93,"source":52,"evidence":94},"Demo video explains the product well.",[95,99],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"2799614","masnick","Check out this demo video: http:\u002F\u002Fcleartax.in\u002Fmeta\u002Fdemo I wish taxes in the US were this simple. I've been thinking for a long time that some good UI\u002FUX designers should be in…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"2799615","copper","Just curious: how much would I have to pay to get cleartax pro? Also, you might want to fix the Mr Bose example: \"ClearTax (an Income Tax website) rode to his resuce\". I'm not…",[104,116],{"value":105,"source":52,"evidence":106},"Pricing and privacy policy are hidden until after sign-up.",[107,111,115],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"2799812","sunspeck","The wording \"Pricing starts from free.\" seems a little ominous with no actual pricing information up front. How much personal information will I have to fill in before you spring…",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"2800810","alphakappa","I like what you are doing here, but you need to be upfront with the pricing before making a user sign up. Having to give up some personal information before even knowing what the…",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},{"value":117,"source":52,"evidence":118},"Doubts that many people in India pay taxes, so the market is small.",[119,123,127],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"2799801","amaranand","Honestly, no one pays taxes in India. Your product has no market. I can speak at length about this, but it's part of the reason real estate values in India increase by 30% year…",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2799966","free","Thats not true. In all most all the s\u002Fw companies I have come across every single person has paid his taxes. I am from a business family and my dad pays a few lakhs of taxes…",{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"2799957","sankara","Exaggeration and over generalization. You should check with a decent CA on the number of people availing their services to file tax. And just so you know there are 30 million…",[132,140,147,161],{"value":133,"source":52,"evidence":134},"Show pricing up front and add a pricing page.",[135,136,137],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},{"id":138,"by":11,"text":139},"2801334","I'll put a pricing page up. I can see how its confusing.",{"value":141,"source":52,"evidence":142},"Add a flowchart of the filing steps and a sample Form 16 picture.",[143,144],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"id":145,"by":11,"text":146},"2800129","Thank you for the detailed feedback! Very actionable. 1. We'll add the flowchart. This is a very good idea :-) 2. I'll do a sample picture example for form-16 3. Its constantly…",{"value":148,"source":52,"evidence":149},"Add a help section and FAQ, and make terms and privacy policy easy to find.",[150,154,157],{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"2799672","mikaelgramont","While it is good that you kept the UI very lean, you would probably benefit from having a UI\u002FUX guy help you with making the app feel a bit more 'dressed up'. Currently this…",{"id":155,"by":89,"text":156},"2800013","You're welcome! About TOS & Privacy policy. I couldn't find these after searching. Maybe place it in Footer, FAQ.",{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"2801897","rrrazdan","Well, to share my own use case. I clicked the big, \"Start your Tax return for free\" assuming, it would provide me some information before I joined the site. When it didn't, I…",{"value":162,"source":52,"evidence":163},"Support more Indian languages and mobile use.",[164],{"id":165,"by":166,"text":167},"2799711","mikerg87","Two technical things if you are really serious. Localization. Make sure you can support the 22 official languages. And you need a mobile strategy. Mos of your potential users are…",[169,174],{"value":170,"source":52,"evidence":171},"What is the business model and is there a fee per filing?",[172,173],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},{"id":145,"by":11,"text":146},{"value":175,"source":52,"evidence":176},"How much would cleartax pro cost?",[177],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},[179,190,197],{"value":180,"source":52,"evidence":181},"Spreadsheet tax calculators used by software professionals.",[182,186],{"id":183,"by":184,"text":185},"2799857","known","Many software professionals in India use this brilliant http:\u002F\u002Fwww.ynithya.com\u002Ftaxcalc\u002F",{"id":187,"by":188,"text":189},"2800970","sagarun","The above said spreadsheets does not work with open\u002Flibre office. If you are looking for openoffice version you can use http:\u002F\u002Ffreedom-matters.in\u002F",{"value":191,"source":52,"evidence":192},"Chartered accountants who file returns for a fee.",[193,196],{"id":194,"by":60,"text":195},"2800145","Not really. All the salaried employees have to file the returns. Every year this time, it will be a cash festival for CAs and non-CAs who charge around 150-250 to get it done. Of…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},{"value":198,"source":52,"evidence":199},"myitreturn.com, another online filing site.",[200],{"id":201,"by":188,"text":202},"2800966","Not true. I filed IT return using this website https:\u002F\u002Fmyitreturn.com\u002Fdefault.aspx and it has handful of users",{"comments":204,"answered":205,"key":206},17,7,[207,210,213],{"id":208,"text":209},"2799954","Thanks for the detailed feedback. Actually we have a pretty strong privacy policy. 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