[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":590},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-28223515":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":35,"aspects":36,"strip":49,"post_text":52,"what":53,"said":98,"maker_in_thread":192,"shape":203,"grid":206,"attempts":553,"same_week":554,"maker_shows":39,"maker_hidden":582,"reader_version":583,"card":584},"28223515","Pop.com","pair programming with low-latency, Screenhero-style sharing","title","Show HN: Pop.com – pair programming with low-latency, Screenhero-style sharing","https:\u002F\u002Fpop.com\u002Fhome","pop.com","jsherwani",1629303901,2021,225,125,184,2533,8,"notable","dev_tools","screen sharing for pair programming","desktop_app",[24,25,26,27],"pair programming","screen sharing","remote collaboration","low latency screen share","mixed",-0.142,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":34},17,24,1,31,73,{"idea":37,"performance":40,"docs":42,"design":44,"pricing":45,"execution":46,"privacy":48},{"positive":38,"critical":39},2,4,{"positive":33,"critical":41},13,{"positive":43,"critical":33},0,{"positive":33,"critical":38},{"positive":43,"critical":38},{"positive":38,"critical":47},7,{"positive":33,"critical":43},[50,33,33,33,33,33,33,33,43,51,33,33,50,51,50,33,33,33,43,50,43,50,33,51,50,51,33,51,51,51,33,51,50,33,51,50,50,50,39,33],5,3,null,{"problem":54,"audience":61,"pricing":70,"motivation":74,"time_to_build":52,"stack":81,"openness":95,"stage":96,"team_size":97},{"value":55,"source":56,"evidence":57},"Remote collaboration is slow; screen sharing is laggy, unstable or poor UX","maker",[58],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"28223522","Hello HN! I’m the founder of Pop (https:\u002F\u002Fpop.com) and formerly the co-founder and CEO of Screenhero. Also on the team are a couple other ex-Slack folks and a former Electron…",{"value":62,"source":63,"evidence":64},"Remote workers and developers who pair program","inferred",[65,66],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"28224881","tanduv","Congrats on the launch! How \"low\" is the latency? The \"Live Share\" feature is VSCode gets mentioned a lot and has some advantages over traditional screen-sharing as it seems to…",{"value":71,"source":56,"evidence":72},"Free for now; plans to charge heavier team and enterprise use later, always keep a free version",[73],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"value":75,"source":56,"evidence":76},"Spiritual successor to Screenhero after Slack killed it; making remote work better",[77,78],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"id":79,"by":11,"text":80},"28225719","It wasn’t ever intended to be a buy-and-kill, it’s just unfortunately what ended up happening. When Slack acquired Screenhero, it was with the full intent to bring…",[82,86],{"value":83,"source":56,"evidence":84},"Electron",[85],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"value":87,"source":56,"evidence":88},"WebRTC",[89,92],{"id":90,"by":11,"text":91},"28226670","Our core business is enabling remote work and remote pair programming. WebRTC infrastructure is largely commoditized, and we're open to revisiting how we handle our WebRTC…",{"id":93,"by":11,"text":94},"28225896","Yes! Once it's available in WebRTC, we'll implement end-to-end encryption for group calls. There is progress being made in this direction:…","unknown","launched","team",{"praise":99,"objections":108,"requests":131,"questions":157,"alternatives":176},[100],{"value":101,"source":102,"evidence":103},"Missing Screenhero; glad it's back","commenter",[104],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"28225433","brightball","I miss screen hero, before acquisition. Very glad to hear you’re back in the game!",[109,119,125],{"value":110,"source":102,"evidence":111},"Uses too much CPU and memory, feels bloated",[112,116],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"28225640","danellis","> Yes, we’re building on Electron I hope you'll reconsider as your team grows. Developers look at their own app and think the extra resource usage isn't too bad, but the more…",{"id":117,"by":114,"text":118},"28230451","> When you say Pop could be more lightweight, are you talking about CPU or memory usage? Memory usage. I haven't noticed an issue with CPU usage, because I usually only open it…",{"value":120,"source":102,"evidence":121},"Pricing concerns for team use",[122],{"id":123,"by":11,"text":124},"28229094","We're pushing out a fix for the back button as I speak, thanks for the heads up! It should be live in ~10 minutes (CI build + test + deploy). Discord: we haven't looked into…",{"value":126,"source":102,"evidence":127},"Keyboard and shortcut issues",[128],{"id":129,"by":11,"text":130},"28226574","Thanks for the feedback! You're right, we need to improve each of these significantly. Reduce Power When Idle: decreases the frame rate from 30fps gradually down to 15fps when…",[132,143,150],{"value":133,"source":102,"evidence":134},"Lower-spec machine performance and lower resource use",[135,139],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"28231030","quickthrower2","Yep, I’m not saying electron means slow but I think it takes skill to keep any app fast especially on the web stack. Glad this is a focus for you! With the work from home boom…",{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"28226869","nawgz","1Password and Dropbox being on Electron seems absurd. Regardless, you kind of hit on the point - Slack & VSCode are basically non-optional, maybe for other people it's some other…",{"value":144,"source":102,"evidence":145},"Bandwidth control setting",[146],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"28226023","nonameiguess","Please provide a way to voluntarily downgrade stream quality. I understand if people with poor vision require it, but I really don't need everything in hi def and definitely…",{"value":151,"source":102,"evidence":152},"Firefox and iOS support fixes",[153],{"id":154,"by":155,"text":156},"28228933","vladharbuz","I'm on Firefox on iOS and your website has a few pixels of horizontal overflow. It makes scrolling feel shoddy. Anyway, OG Screenhero user here wishing you good luck with Pop! If…",[158,169],{"value":159,"source":102,"evidence":160},"Is Electron the right choice given performance tradeoffs?",[161,165],{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"28230555","hug","Don't benchmark yourself against other Electron apps. Just promise yourself you'll eventually quit Electron. Electron is nothing more than a deal you make with the devil, selling…",{"id":166,"by":167,"text":168},"28229029","Wowfunhappy","This is how I wish more companies used Electron. It makes complete sense to me as a stop-gap when you're starting out, need to grow fast, and are still experimenting with your…",{"value":170,"source":102,"evidence":171},"Is the call data end-to-end encrypted?",[172],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"28225868","jeremyw","Your security doc says 1-on-1 calls are end-to-end encrypted, and I'm glad for it. Recommend promoting that bit to homepage marketing. Do you expect to be able to make 3+…",[177,181,188],{"value":178,"source":102,"evidence":179},"VSCode Live Share",[180],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"value":182,"source":102,"evidence":183},"Tuple",[184],{"id":185,"by":186,"text":187},"28230201","t0mbstone","If you are looking for screenhero alternatives, you should check out Tuple! Our team has been using it for about a year now and we love it. My favorite part about Tuple is how it…",{"value":189,"source":56,"evidence":190},"Screenhero",[191],{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"comments":193,"answered":194,"key":195},43,15,[196,197,200],{"id":59,"text":60},{"id":198,"text":199},"28225229","We heard an equal number of people excited about being able to jump into a call with a coworker, vs. being worried about yet another layer of distraction. Having said that, we've…",{"id":201,"text":202},"28225863","When you say Pop could be more lightweight, are you talking about CPU or memory usage? Also, do you keep Slack \u002F Microsoft Teams \u002F Dropbox \u002F 1Password \u002F VSCode always running,…",{"commenters":204,"max_depth":47,"maker_replies":193,"first_comment_mins":43,"lifespan_hours":205},67,86,[207,209,213,215,217,221,223,225,228,229,232,235,237,240,241,243,246,248,251,253,256,258,259,261,265,266,268,271,273,275,278,280,282,284,285,287,290,293,294,296,300,302,304,307,311,314,317,320,323,326,329,331,334,339,342,345,349,352,355,357,360,365,369,370,373,375,379,381,386,388,392,393,397,401,404,406,410,412,417,419,423,425,429,432,436,440,443,445,447,449,451,454,458,462,464,467,469,471,473,475,477,479,482,484,487,489,493,494,498,500,503,505,509,511,515,519,521,526,530,534,536,540,544,547,550],[59,43,43,208,11,33],"maker\u002Fpositive\u002Fidea",[210,33,50,211,212,43],"28225172","project\u002Fpositive\u002Fidea","ElijahLynn",[198,33,43,214,11,33],"project\u002Fneutral\u002Fidea",[216,33,51,214,212,43],"28227071",[218,33,33,219,220,43],"28233316","project\u002Fcritical\u002Fidea","atatatat",[113,38,33,222,114,43],"project\u002Fcritical\u002Fperformance",[201,38,43,224,11,33],"maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fperformance",[226,38,33,222,227,43],"28226415","tfsh",[140,38,33,222,141,43],[230,38,43,231,11,33],"28227066","project\u002Fneutral\u002Fperformance",[233,38,33,222,234,43],"28227024","Cu3PO42",[236,38,43,224,11,33],"28227508",[238,38,51,231,239,43],"28227586","anotherevan",[117,38,33,222,114,43],[242,38,43,231,11,33],"28230479",[244,38,33,222,245,43],"28225886","jshier",[247,38,43,231,11,33],"28225977",[249,38,33,250,245,43],"28226375","project\u002Fcritical\u002Fdocs",[129,38,43,252,11,33],"project\u002Fneutral\u002Fdocs",[254,38,33,222,255,43],"28229210","montag",[257,38,43,231,11,33],"28229281",[162,38,33,222,163,43],[260,38,43,231,11,33],"28230616",[262,38,43,263,264,43],"28250242","commenter\u002Fneutral\u002Fperformance","LewisJEllis",[166,38,33,222,167,43],[267,38,43,231,11,33],"28229158",[269,38,43,263,270,43],"28230542","O_H_E",[272,38,43,231,11,33],"28230590",[274,38,51,231,270,43],"28263310",[276,38,51,214,277,43],"28229670","Hadriel",[279,38,43,214,11,33],"28229722",[281,38,33,222,137,43],"28230876",[283,38,43,224,11,33],"28230992",[136,38,51,231,137,43],[286,38,43,224,11,33],"28231062",[288,38,33,222,289,43],"28231186","habibur",[291,38,33,222,292,43],"28234238","jen20",[147,51,51,231,148,43],[295,51,43,224,11,33],"28226080",[297,51,50,298,299,43],"28228259","maker\u002Fpositive\u002Fnone","orzig",[301,51,50,298,148,43],"28234282",[185,39,33,303,186,43],"project\u002Fcritical\u002Fdesign",[305,39,43,306,11,33],"28230297","maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fdesign",[308,50,51,309,310,43],"28227363","project\u002Fneutral\u002Fpricing","rexreed",[312,50,50,211,313,43],"28227412","flyinglizard",[315,50,43,316,11,33],"28227491","maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fidea",[318,50,33,219,319,43],"28228573","benatkin",[321,50,33,219,322,43],"28241304","BenjiWiebe",[324,50,33,325,167,43],"28228996","project\u002Fcritical\u002Fpricing",[327,50,51,309,328,43],"28230125","zwayhowder",[330,50,51,309,310,43],"28230260",[332,50,43,333,11,33],"28230273","maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fpricing",[335,336,33,337,338,43],"28224800",6,"maker\u002Fcritical\u002Fnone","rubiquity",[340,336,43,341,11,33],"28224857","maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fnone",[343,336,33,337,344,43],"28224892","jauco",[346,47,43,347,348,43],"28225145","other\u002Fneutral\u002Fnone","xeno42",[350,18,43,347,351,43],"28224805","dang",[353,18,43,347,354,43],"28225277","hartator",[356,18,43,347,351,43],"28227204",[358,18,43,347,359,43],"28229217","tedmiston",[361,362,50,363,364,43],"28225164",9,"project\u002Fpositive\u002Fnone","dorian-graph",[366,367,51,341,368,43],"28225326",10,"tibiapejagala",[79,367,43,341,11,33],[371,367,43,347,372,43],"28227812","mchusma",[374,367,43,341,11,33],"28228106",[376,367,43,377,378,43],"28229272","commenter\u002Fneutral\u002Fnone","j1elo",[380,367,43,341,11,33],"28229293",[382,383,50,384,385,43],"28229166",11,"project\u002Fpositive\u002Fdesign","borisdesouza",[387,383,43,298,11,33],"28231000",[389,390,33,325,391,43],"28228960",12,"keithnz",[123,390,43,333,11,33],[394,41,33,395,396,43],"28231331","project\u002Fcritical\u002Fexecution","pmontra",[398,41,51,399,400,43],"28231407","project\u002Fneutral\u002Fexecution","worble",[402,403,50,298,354,43],"28225315",14,[405,403,43,341,11,33],"28225447",[407,194,50,408,409,43],"28226822","project\u002Fpositive\u002Fexecution","nathell",[411,194,43,341,11,33],"28226890",[413,414,50,415,416,43],"28230854",16,"project\u002Fpositive\u002Fperformance","kirillzubovsky",[418,414,43,298,11,33],"28230995",[420,31,51,421,422,43],"28225756","project\u002Fneutral\u002Fnone","Palmik",[424,31,43,341,11,33],"28225883",[426,427,33,395,428,43],"28226974",18,"lucas3",[430,427,43,431,11,33],"28227627","maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fexecution",[433,434,33,219,435,43],"28229660",19,"caslon",[437,438,33,222,439,43],"28225323",20,"j3th9n",[441,438,51,224,442,43],"28225415","mhash22",[105,444,50,363,106,43],21,[446,444,43,341,11,33],"28225480",[448,444,51,309,106,43],"28226152",[450,444,43,333,11,33],"28226276",[452,444,51,341,453,43],"28226782","atonse",[455,456,51,421,457,43],"28236613",22,"rvz",[459,460,51,461,239,43],"28230175",23,"project\u002Fmixed\u002Fexecution",[463,460,43,431,11,33],"28230247",[465,32,33,303,466,43],"28230018","sagivo",[468,32,43,341,11,33],"28230059",[67,470,51,231,68,43],25,[472,470,50,363,212,43],"28224963",[474,470,43,231,11,33],"28224978",[154,476,33,395,155,43],26,[478,476,43,341,11,33],"28228974",[173,480,50,481,174,43],27,"project\u002Fpositive\u002Fprivacy",[93,480,43,483,11,33],"maker\u002Fneutral\u002Fprivacy",[485,486,33,395,234,43],"28227175",28,[488,486,43,431,11,33],"28227625",[490,491,51,421,492,43],"28226568",29,"DrBenCarson",[90,491,43,341,11,33],[495,496,51,214,497,43],"28230274",30,"spockz",[499,496,43,316,11,33],"28230319",[501,34,50,363,502,43],"28230160","makstaks",[504,34,43,341,11,33],"28230322",[506,507,51,399,508,43],"28231458",32,"danr4",[510,507,43,431,11,33],"28234780",[512,513,51,341,514,43],"28230483",33,"simonebrunozzi",[516,517,50,363,518,43],"28230006",34,"pjot",[520,517,43,341,11,33],"28230060",[522,523,51,524,525,43],"28246186",35,"project\u002Fneutral\u002Fdesign","programmarchy",[527,528,50,363,529,43],"28249150",36,"chadxz",[531,532,51,421,533,43],"28229578",37,"presentation",[535,532,50,363,186,43],"28230245",[537,538,51,341,539,43],"28227752",38,"jmacd",[541,542,33,395,543,43],"28224787",39,"smoldesu",[545,542,33,395,546,43],"28224815","jpetrucc",[548,542,33,395,549,43],"28224817","hhw3h",[551,542,50,552,442,43],"28225096","maker\u002Fpositive\u002Fexecution",[],[555,560,565,570,574,578],{"id":556,"name":557,"points":558,"category":559},"28207662","Imba",1216,"languages",{"id":561,"name":562,"points":563,"category":564},"28221904","DIY-ai-art",399,"creative",{"id":566,"name":567,"points":568,"category":569},"28167358","Nomad Visa",285,"productivity",{"id":571,"name":572,"points":573,"category":20},"28191450","Burst",165,{"id":575,"name":576,"points":577,"category":569},"28170609","per.quest",134,{"id":579,"name":580,"points":581,"category":559},"28164398","lisp-rosetta-stone",128,false,"v2",{"id":585,"name":5,"line":6,"ai":582,"cat":20,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rec":28,"s":586,"top":18,"kw":587,"maker":11,"domain":10,"tier":19,"attempts":43,"strip":588,"url":9,"mix":589,"praise":101,"objection":110,"sub":21},28223515,-0.14,[24,25,26,27],"5111111103115351110505135313331351355541",[31,32,33,34],1794036610255]