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We’re excited about this for several reasons, which I’ll explain below. Most academic papers are currently…",{"value":58,"source":52,"evidence":59},"Researchers and readers of academic papers, including vision-impaired readers.",[60],{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},{"value":62,"source":52,"evidence":63},"Make papers accessible and easier to read by moving research from PDF to HTML.",[64,65],{"id":55,"by":11,"text":56},{"id":66,"by":11,"text":67},"28545612","That's the idea! If all goes well we won't need this software anymore. In a best case scenario the publishers start accepting HTML, and gone are the days of having to convert…",[69,75],{"value":70,"source":52,"evidence":71},"GROBID",[72],{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"28544600","Yup, right now we use GROBID, do some post processing and combine the output with other extraction techniques. 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As per other recent discussions on HN I think the general accessibility of academic papers is ripe for improvement.",{"id":97,"by":98,"text":99},"28545286","jimmySixDOF","I am so amazed at the work you guys are doing at AI2 & the Semantic Scholar project. You guys are really fixing a broken system of research and discovery which suffers from…",[101,115,126],{"value":102,"source":86,"evidence":103},"Math and equations extract poorly or not at all",[104,108,112],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"28545025","p4bl0","I tried that a few days ago with one of my papers (a PDF generated using pdflatex) and it didn't work that well: the text was fine but some section titles were off, and all of…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"28546763","NmAmDa","I tried several physics papers and none of them had any equation extracted. Is it by design have problems with LaTeX equations?",{"id":113,"by":11,"text":114},"28547301","Yup, this is a known limitation: > What are the limitations? 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