[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":504},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-2886337":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":33,"aspects":34,"strip":45,"post_text":46,"what":47,"said":91,"maker_in_thread":259,"shape":269,"grid":273,"attempts":460,"same_week":466,"maker_shows":40,"maker_hidden":496,"reader_version":497,"card":498},"2886337","Radio Silence","My user-friendly outbound firewall for Mac","title","Show HN: My user-friendly outbound firewall for Mac","http:\u002F\u002Fradiosilenceapp.com","radiosilenceapp.com","aparadja",1313408086,2011,77,81,152,1097,14,"notable","security_privacy","outbound firewall","desktop_app",[24,21,25,26],"mac firewall","block app network","little snitch alternative","mixed",0.085,{"positive":18,"neutral":30,"mixed":31,"critical":32},18,5,11,48,{"pricing":35,"design":37,"idea":39,"docs":41,"execution":42,"performance":44},{"positive":36,"critical":31},2,{"positive":31,"critical":38},0,{"positive":40,"critical":36},3,{"positive":38,"critical":38},{"positive":43,"critical":36},1,{"positive":38,"critical":43},[43,43,38,40,31,31,31,43,31,31,38,31,43,40,38,43,43,40,43,40,40,40,40,43,40,40,40,40,40,31,43,31,31,43,31,40,40,31,31,43],null,{"problem":48,"audience":58,"pricing":70,"motivation":79,"time_to_build":46,"stack":83,"openness":88,"stage":89,"team_size":90},{"value":49,"source":50,"evidence":51},"Stops chosen Mac applications from connecting to the internet without popup alerts","maker",[52,55],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},"2886540","Little Snitch wants to inform you about everything. Radio Silence obeys silently. I guess \"better\" is a matter of preference. I wanted to create the simplest possible solution I…",{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"2886584","Yes, there is a kext. Currently, it doesn't block non-app-bundle processes. The main reason for the app's existence is to block nosy apps that discreetly contact their home…",{"value":59,"source":60,"evidence":61},"Mac users who want to block apps phoning home, especially privacy-minded users","inferred",[62,66],{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},"2888284","rjb","Great design and the app looks dead simple, i.e. it is not scary looking, but I need a bit more information. \"Radio Silence lets you block internet access from any applications…",{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"2887883","huhtenberg","Yeah, I'd say $19 is really pushing it for this sort of app, which is something that is zero-maintenance, zero-interaction, install and forget kind of thing. The app needs to…",{"value":71,"source":50,"evidence":72},"Priced at $9 as a data-collection experiment; had been $19",[73,76],{"id":74,"by":11,"text":75},"2887611","UPDATE: As a data-collection experiment, I've dropped the price to $9 for the time being. (If you already purchased and feel left out, send an email and we'll figure it out).",{"id":77,"by":11,"text":78},"2887266","Author here. I have an open question about pricing. How do you feel about the price point? Some emails and comments have mentioned that $19 feels too expensive. To me, pricing…",{"value":80,"source":50,"evidence":81},"Wanted the simplest possible firewall that obeys silently rather than alerting",[82],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},[84],{"value":85,"source":50,"evidence":86},"Kernel extension (kext)",[87],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":92,"objections":127,"requests":173,"questions":212,"alternatives":238},[93,109,116],{"value":94,"source":95,"evidence":96},"Clean, attractive website and UI","commenter",[97,101,105],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"2887843","nmeyer","Very clean site design, and UI looks gorgeous. Awesome job! May want to think about putting the qualifier inside the call to action: Buy now for $9 (try risk-free for 30 days)…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"2887310","thirtysixred","I'm really liking the design of the website.",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"2887729","iamdave","I think you did a great job. Tells me exactly what it does, I don't have to hunt down screenshots, the call to action button is obvious yet not obnoxious and it's clean. Well…",{"value":110,"source":95,"evidence":111},"Simple, unobtrusive design with no dock or menu icon",[112],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"2888530","shennyg","very nice, it just disappears when you click done. You may forget about this and wonder why my apps aren't connecting but glad there isn't dock or menu icon!",{"value":117,"source":95,"evidence":118},"Price of $9 feels right",[119,123],{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"2888748","robterrell","$9 feels about right. I know this is off-topic, but how do you like FastSpring?",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2888831","ary","Asking for features \"before I buy\" is lame, I know. These are merely suggestions. 1) Avoiding the verboseness of something like LittleSnitch is an admirable goal, but there's too…",[128,143,154,165],{"value":129,"source":95,"evidence":130},"No trial download; buying up front is a barrier",[131,135,139],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"2886975","nvk","Can't download to try before buying. Lost my interest.",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"2888578","tintin846","Agreed. I use Little Snitch currently. I wanted to give this a try but.... I won't buy an application up front. I understand the Dev will refund instantly as stated in comments…",{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"2887841","kamme","My first thoughts: + nice website + app in the screenshot looks nice ? does it show up in the menubar or...? (maybe add a couple of screenshots) - I can't try before I buy (yes,…",{"value":144,"source":95,"evidence":145},"Does not detect which apps phone home, so users must know what to block",[146,150],{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"2886969","lovskogen","If you have to silence apps manually, how can you know if an app will phone home?",{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"2887523","lisper","It's not misleading, but the combination of requiring manual silencing and not giving any indication of what needs to be silenced seems self-undermining. Your target market is…",{"value":155,"source":95,"evidence":156},"Can't block non-app-bundle processes or other exfiltration routes",[157,161],{"id":158,"by":159,"text":160},"2887212","pornel","There's so many ways to send outbound traffic that I'm not sure if it's worth blocking it at all. You can easily block applications that don't try to be sneaky, but are firewalls…",{"id":162,"by":163,"text":164},"2886566","uris","Is there a kernel extension involved ? What about blocking process e.g. from the terminal etc.",{"value":166,"source":95,"evidence":167},"$19 price too high for the functionality",[168,169],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"2886927","shabble","I'd be curious as to what the sales of this are like. It's something I'd be tempted to buy at maybe $5-10 or so, but for ~$20 I'd just use either the System Preferences firewall,…",[174,189,193,198,208],{"value":175,"source":95,"evidence":176},"Whitelist mode for paranoid users",[177,181,185],{"id":178,"by":179,"text":180},"2887356","Sidnicious","I really love Radio Silence’s UI (based on the screenshot). Quick thought — for the more-paranoid, would it make sense to let you switch to a whitelist, where only the listed…",{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"2888608","siculars","seconded. and an opt-in growl notification for applications that are trying to outbound connect.",{"id":186,"by":187,"text":188},"2889977","trusko","I would like to see whitelist as well. Looks nice. Good luck.",{"value":190,"source":95,"evidence":191},"Growl notifications for blocked connection attempts",[192],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},{"value":194,"source":95,"evidence":195},"Trial version or free download",[196,197],{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},{"value":199,"source":95,"evidence":200},"Subscribable adblock-style block lists",[201,205],{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"2888174","Aloisius","I wish I could subscribe to adblock style lists for application firewalls. That's something I'd pay real money for.",{"id":206,"by":171,"text":207},"2889864","Somewhere upthread someone mentioned an adblock-style collaborative\u002Fhosted block list. Having it follow one (or more) RSS feeds would allow anyone to offer a list, and any user…",{"value":209,"source":95,"evidence":210},"Thumbs up\u002Fdown toggle per application",[211],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},[213,220,231],{"value":214,"source":95,"evidence":215},"Does it work on Windows or Linux equivalents",[216],{"id":217,"by":218,"text":219},"2888107","rufugee","Very nice. Anyone aware of something like this for Linux?",{"value":221,"source":95,"evidence":222},"Why not sold through the Mac App Store",[223,227],{"id":224,"by":225,"text":226},"2889208","iampims","Any reason why you decided to not distribute it through the Mac Appstore? Genuinely curious.",{"id":228,"by":229,"text":230},"2886570","Kwpolska","It would be nice if it was in the Mac App Store (or if it is already you shall link to it)",{"value":232,"source":95,"evidence":233},"Does it work with Spotify",[234],{"id":235,"by":236,"text":237},"2887060","tombot","Will this work for an app like Spotify? Note: Spotify appears to use very random ports to do it's p2p stuff, which is great except when you don't have the bandwidth to spare.",[239,247,255],{"value":240,"source":95,"evidence":241},"Little Snitch",[242,246],{"id":243,"by":244,"text":245},"2886510","foobarbazetc","What makes this better than Little Snitch?",{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},{"value":248,"source":95,"evidence":249},"pf firewall and Waterroof",[250,254],{"id":251,"by":252,"text":253},"2887185","windexh8er","Personally I use a combination of pf (Waterroof is a nice control front end) and HandsOff (switcher from LittleSnitch for more fine grained control). I wish the dev well - but…",{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},{"value":256,"source":95,"evidence":257},"HandsOff",[258],{"id":251,"by":252,"text":253},{"comments":260,"answered":18,"key":261},27,[262,263,266],{"id":77,"text":78},{"id":264,"text":265},"2887890","Thanks for your input. I'm currently running at $9 for benchmarking.",{"id":267,"text":268},"2887976","Strange. 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