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We are offering everyone a starter account to try it out on",{"problem":46,"audience":52,"pricing":61,"motivation":70,"time_to_build":9,"stack":74,"openness":75,"stage":76,"team_size":77},{"value":47,"source":48,"evidence":49},"Database configuration is hard to tune for performance and cost","maker",[50],{"id":51},"post",{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Teams running MySQL or Postgres on AWS RDS","inferred",[56,57],{"id":51},{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"28870213","mdasen","Hi! This looks really cool and I like that you've published\u002Fpresented at VLDB. I'm a little curious why AWS is free\u002Fcheap, but anything other than AWS ends up in the \"Enterprise,…",{"value":62,"source":63,"evidence":64},"Free starter account; standard plan around $450 for 5 databases","commenter",[65,66],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"28876144","simplyinfinity","I don't get the user account limit in products like this. On the free tier, sure.. limit me to 1 account. Fine. But on a $450 plan a 1 user limit is just absurd. So what? me and…",{"value":71,"source":48,"evidence":72},"Spun out of CMU research group on automated knob tuning",[73],{"id":51},[],"paid","launched","company",{"praise":79,"objections":97,"requests":121,"questions":155,"alternatives":170},[80,92],{"value":81,"source":63,"evidence":82},"Interesting research-backed product from CMU, congratulations on launch",[83,84,88],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":85,"by":86,"text":87},"28871588","Twirrim","I've been looking out for OtterTune for several years now, ever since the research paper was published. Congratulations on reaching live product stage! edit: The original…",{"id":89,"by":90,"text":91},"28873373","snarkypixel","Hey, best of luck Andy. I've been following your db classes online and the launch of OtterTune on twitter.",{"value":93,"source":63,"evidence":94},"Useful for automated, continuous config tuning",[95,96],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":85,"by":86,"text":87},[98,106,110,114],{"value":99,"source":63,"evidence":100},"Only supports AWS RDS; hard to try off AWS",[101,102],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"28870487","ddlutz","Looks like only AWS is supported now. Will there be GCP Cloud SQL support? Seems very useful!",{"value":107,"source":63,"evidence":108},"Single-user limit on the paid plan is too restrictive",[109],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"value":111,"source":63,"evidence":112},"Pricing could allow gaming by switching databases on and off",[113],{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},{"value":115,"source":63,"evidence":116},"Tuning is one-time for static workloads so ongoing payment is questioned",[117],{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"28869831","slig","Once a database has been tunned, why would people keep paying for the service?",[122,126,137,148],{"value":123,"source":63,"evidence":124},"Support for GCP Cloud SQL",[125],{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},{"value":127,"source":63,"evidence":128},"Support for MSSQL and MariaDB",[129,133],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"28875483","bvm","any plans for MSSQL?",{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"28875022","pachico","I understand this does not support MariaDB, right?",{"value":138,"source":63,"evidence":139},"Self-hosted Postgres and EU availability zones",[140,144],{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"28870048","devops000","Do you plan to support self-hosted Postgres ?",{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"28868947","onmysofa","Wondering why they decided not to give free trials to EU Zones. 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