[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":313},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-2941589":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":9,"maker":10,"posted_at":11,"year":12,"points":13,"comments":14,"rank_in_year":15,"shown_in_year":16,"top":17,"tier":18,"category":19,"subcategory":20,"format":21,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":17,"aspects":33,"strip":41,"post_text":42,"what":43,"said":64,"maker_in_thread":194,"shape":203,"grid":206,"attempts":275,"same_week":276,"maker_shows":40,"maker_hidden":304,"reader_version":305,"card":306},"2941589","LayerVault","Simple version control for designers","title","Show HN: Simple version control for designers",null,"allang",1314714839,2011,55,28,227,1097,21,"notable","dev_tools","version control for design files","desktop_app",[23,24,25,26],"version control","design files","photoshop versioning","design history","mixed",0.009,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":32},5,8,4,{"docs":34,"design":37,"idea":38},{"positive":35,"critical":36},0,1,{"positive":36,"critical":36},{"positive":39,"critical":40},3,2,[39,35,39,39,35,35,39,36,35,30,36,39,30,30,36,39,39,39,30,35,39,35,39,30,36,35,39,39],"Hi HN,\n\nI've been waiting to post what I've been working on for a few weeks now:)\n\nToday we're launching LayerVault, which is a version control system made for designers. The URL is http:\u002F\u002Fwww.layervault.com\n\nLayerVault keeps track of what you're working on without adding extra steps to your process. The app runs in your toolbar and tracks changes you make to your files. Basically — each time you create or modify a file you’re working on, LayerVault saves a copy. You can then login, flip through its versions, and download a version from a few weeks ago.\n\nIt's pretty neat — and we’ve built some",{"problem":44,"audience":50,"pricing":9,"motivation":57,"time_to_build":9,"stack":61,"openness":62,"stage":63,"team_size":62},{"value":45,"source":46,"evidence":47},"Designers lack simple version history for their design files without extra steps.","maker",[48],{"id":49},"post",{"value":51,"source":46,"evidence":52},"Designers",[53,54],{"id":49},{"id":55,"by":10,"text":56},"2941925","It's not just for Photoshop, though it is what we're launching with.",{"value":58,"source":46,"evidence":59},"Give designers version control that works without extra steps.",[60],{"id":49},[],"unknown","beta",{"praise":65,"objections":82,"requests":137,"questions":157,"alternatives":170},[66,78],{"value":67,"source":68,"evidence":69},"Simple approach that fits designers' needs","commenter",[70,74],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"2943563","jongold","Looks great - designers desperately need a better solution for versioning. My thoughts on existing options: - Dropbox isn't great because (as far as I know) you don't get to…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"2944323","Groxx","At a glance, UI. Dropbox is horrible for restoring things - it's possible, but it's definitely not the primary use-case. Especially with something visual, you can go a lot…",{"value":79,"source":68,"evidence":80},"Better than Dropbox for restoring earlier versions visually",[81],{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},[83,102,120,127],{"value":84,"source":68,"evidence":85},"Video is blurry and too long",[86,90,94,98],{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"2941865","ollie","Looking like a great MVP. I've just had a quick look at your demo video. 2 minor things struck me. 1) It's really blurry. Can I suggest you either re-encode it at a higher…",{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"2943561","bradhe","Cool! Glad to see more people entering this space, it's really validating for us and for you I'm sure too. We just launched our service that is very similar, but uses Dropbox as…",{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"2942694","chaddeshon","Cool idea, but I stopped watched the video after about 1 minute. I think you need to get to your sell faster. Like a newspaper article get to the point first, then fill in the…",{"id":99,"by":100,"text":101},"2943664","moeffju","I highly recommend you get a good noise-canceling headset, put up some towels or carpets in a small room, and re-record the video. The sound will be a hundred times better. Take…",{"value":103,"source":68,"evidence":104},"Very similar to existing tools like OS X Lion versions and Dropbox-based services",[105,109,113,116],{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"2941862","knubie","Correct me if I'm wrong but this seems almost identical to the versions feature in os x lion. Won't this be somewhat obsolete when adobe starts supporting versions on lion?",{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"2941816","random42","Benefit over using Dropbox (which many people have to use for other files anyways)?",{"id":114,"by":92,"text":115},"2943559","Hah, funny you should mention that. We just launched our service that does pretty well the same thing, but uses Dropbox: http:\u002F\u002Fwww.pixelstew.com There are a few other people…",{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"2942872","ssheth","Seems very similar to FileHamster (http:\u002F\u002Fwww.filehamster.com) except I guess LayerVault would be \"cloud-based\" and available online. I've been using FH for about 3 years for…",{"value":121,"source":68,"evidence":122},"Mac only for now",[123],{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"2941800","watty","I'm not a designer either but it does look interesting. Is it Mac only?",{"value":128,"source":68,"evidence":129},"Title and description don't say it is for Photoshop or make clear its scope",[130,134],{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"2941910","blueplz","Should change the title to \"Simple version control for Photoshop designers\". The word Photoshop is not mentioned in your description too.",{"id":135,"by":132,"text":136},"2941935","Oh. But you can see why I got confused. :) A bit more clarity in your description would be great.",[138,146,152],{"value":139,"source":68,"evidence":140},"Add commit messages or comments on versions",[141,142],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"2948397","kellysutton","We've toyed with the idea of doing commit messages, but we're holding off on them for now. A commit message is a way of explaining the behavior of the changes in (usually) code.…",{"value":147,"source":68,"evidence":148},"Add PC support",[149],{"id":150,"by":144,"text":151},"2941807","For now, yes, this is Mac only. 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