[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":768},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-29637188":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":9,"maker":10,"posted_at":11,"year":12,"points":13,"comments":14,"rank_in_year":15,"shown_in_year":16,"top":17,"tier":18,"category":19,"subcategory":20,"format":21,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":49,"post_text":50,"what":51,"said":100,"maker_in_thread":208,"shape":221,"grid":226,"attempts":728,"same_week":729,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":759,"reader_version":760,"card":761},"29637188","SlikSafe","A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox","title","Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox",null,"arpitagarwal",1640093593,2021,284,185,122,2533,5,"legend","infrastructure","encrypted file sync and backup","web_app",[23,24,25,26],"encrypted file sync","decentralized storage","dropbox alternative","end-to-end encryption","mixed",-0.321,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},9,43,1,41,94,{"docs":36,"privacy":39,"pricing":41,"execution":43,"idea":44,"design":46,"performance":48},{"positive":37,"critical":38},0,4,{"positive":37,"critical":40},13,{"positive":37,"critical":42},3,{"positive":37,"critical":38},{"positive":38,"critical":45},17,{"positive":47,"critical":37},2,{"positive":37,"critical":37},[47,32,32,47,42,17,37,37,42,32,42,47,32,32,42,32,47,37,37,37,42,32,42,47,32,17,32,38,42,32,32,32,42,38,47,42,47,42,32,47],"Hey folks,\n\nWe are the team behind Slik.\n\nOver the past year, we have been hacking on SlikSafe [1] a Dropbox alternative where all your data is first encrypted on your own device and then stored on decentralized storage.\n\nSome features we're most excited about are -\n\n\n```\n  - multi-device data sync,\n  - auto-backups via desktop apps,\n  - search your docs by name or contents with end-to-end encryption,\n  - easy sharing via email, QR-code or private-link,\n  - Password-less login using MetaMask\u002FPhantom\n\n\n```\n\nWe leverage storage providers IPFS and Storj for global redundancy, reliability, and imm",{"problem":52,"audience":9,"pricing":58,"motivation":67,"time_to_build":9,"stack":73,"openness":97,"stage":98,"team_size":99},{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Storing and syncing files with end-to-end encryption instead of trusting a provider like Dropbox","maker",[56],{"id":57},"post",{"value":59,"source":54,"evidence":60},"Free 2GB tier; 0.1 SOL for 10GB lifetime (10 years) or $4.99\u002Fmo for 500GB",[61,64],{"id":62,"by":10,"text":63},"29642054","> I am not sure which parts are actually provided by Sliksafe. The full end-to-end encrypted backup and sharing experience is provided by Slik. We use Storj only for storing the…",{"id":65,"by":10,"text":66},"29641268","Yes, to start out, we're providing 2GB of free storage. Beyond that our costs are inclusive of multi-device sync, egress, and storage.",{"value":68,"source":54,"evidence":69},"Inspired after Keybase was acquired by Zoom",[70],{"id":71,"by":10,"text":72},"29641372","Hey Arubis, I was pretty bummed about that acquihire too, but was inspired to build Slik. Please feel free to read through our WhitePaper (https:\u002F\u002Fsliksafe.com\u002Fwhitepaper.pdf),…",[74,78,85,89],{"value":75,"source":54,"evidence":76},"IPFS",[77],{"id":57},{"value":79,"source":54,"evidence":80},"Storj",[81,82],{"id":57},{"id":83,"by":10,"text":84},"29641140","Thanks for the great questions! Reliability, performance, and a scalable infrastructure were strong selling points of Storj for us, and hence, we decided to go with them to…",{"value":86,"source":54,"evidence":87},"Filecoin",[88],{"id":83,"by":10,"text":84},{"value":90,"source":54,"evidence":91},"Firebase",[92,96],{"id":93,"by":94,"text":95},"29640323","beedrillzzzzz","Hey congrats, the product looks great! Love to see the rise of e2ee tools. Why did you all decide to go with Storj, a fairly centralized distributed storage aggregator, rather…",{"id":83,"by":10,"text":84},"unknown","beta","team",{"praise":101,"objections":102,"requests":156,"questions":174,"alternatives":188},[],[103,123,134,145],{"value":104,"source":105,"evidence":106},"Not open source; decentralization unclear","commenter",[107,111,115,119],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"29641467","purpleidea","Where's the source code? If it's not under a libre license, then it doesn't matter that you are decentralized, control is still centralized in your developer team.",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"29640837","mmmmkay","shouldn't this be open sourced?",{"id":116,"by":117,"text":118},"29639251","gtsop","I haven't really understood how the \"decentralized\" comes into place. My notion of decentralization is the existence of multiple instances managed by unrelated people, such that…",{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},"29639745","spicybright","Don't see how it's better than syncthing, which is free. I don't want a company whose incentive is to make profit to have control over the software.",{"value":124,"source":105,"evidence":125},"Whitepaper lacks technical detail",[126,130],{"id":127,"by":128,"text":129},"29639791","trompetenaccoun","The website and demo look cool, I like your clean and simple design. The supposed whitepaper however doesn't go into any details at all. It says in addition to Storj the files…",{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},"29641146","ketzu","After skimming the whitepaper and the storj website, I am not sure which parts are actually provided by Sliksafe. The website tells me I can pay by solana (or even by credit…",{"value":135,"source":105,"evidence":136},"Lifetime storage claim on IPFS is doubtful",[137,141],{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"29641994","neximo64","Looks good until I saw it was on IPFS, which isn't 'forever'. How can you guarantee it will be there for lifetime storage?",{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"29643219","applgo443","Web3 noob here. Is there a guarantee that IPFS and Storj won't go down or delete a file in the next 10 years? How do you ensure that the files are always stored?",{"value":146,"source":105,"evidence":147},"Syncthing already offers this for free",[148,152],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"29640447","goodpoint","Syncthing seems provide all the features of Silk and has been around for many years. The main difference is that it uses your devices for storage and never touches somebody's…",{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"29638895","billpg","I don't need that. I can just set up an SFTP server and rsync my files to it.",[157,168],{"value":158,"source":105,"evidence":159},"Linux client",[160,164],{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"29638405","akvadrako","An e2e Dropbox alternative would be great. Though for it to actually count as a Dropbox alternative (to me) it would need: ``` 1) a Linux app 2) an Android app 3) on-demand…",{"id":165,"by":166,"text":167},"29643726","adiM","Any plans for a Linux version? That’s a bit selling point of Dropbox for me as it is one of the few syncing services that have a Linux client.",{"value":169,"source":105,"evidence":170},"Selective offline folder sync",[171],{"id":172,"by":10,"text":173},"29639700","Those are some great requests. Thank you! We currently have a macOS app available and are targeting January for a Windows launch and a Linux launch soon after. We also have an…",[175,180],{"value":176,"source":105,"evidence":177},"How is lifetime storage guaranteed",[178,179],{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},{"value":181,"source":105,"evidence":182},"Where the encryption keys live and whether Slik can access files",[183,187],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"29637346","woofcat","If you are offering a Web App doesn't that imply that you're storing a set of Encryption Keys? If you are does that not allow you to access any files stored with Slik?",{"id":131,"by":132,"text":133},[189,194,201],{"value":190,"source":105,"evidence":191},"Syncthing",[192,193],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},{"id":120,"by":121,"text":122},{"value":195,"source":105,"evidence":196},"Bittorrent Sync",[197],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"29638944","jeroenhd","So, how does this compare to a solution like Bittorrent Sync? And, perhaps more interestingly, why would this become popular where BT Sync failed to live up to the hype?…",{"value":202,"source":105,"evidence":203},"Keybase",[204],{"id":205,"by":206,"text":207},"29641249","Arubis","I currently use Keybase for this purpose, and while it's not entirely dead yet (slow-but-present maintenance at…",{"comments":209,"answered":210,"key":211},22,12,[212,215,218],{"id":213,"text":214},"29641880","That's some great feedback, trompetenaccoun. Slik's file storage is powered by Storj and Filecoin. About encryption, would love to hear what part you find missing in the 3…",{"id":216,"text":217},"29653999","Thanks for the great feedback Gary! We'll work on it. :)",{"id":219,"text":220},"29652903","That's a great point. However, in Slik's case, the data is first fragmented into small chunks and then distributed into a decentralized storage. 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